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Ed Milliband to unveil the UK's peak oil mitigation plan.

Posted: 15 Jul 2009, 08:38
by SunnyJim
Today.

Posted: 15 Jul 2009, 08:52
by PS_RalphW
Wasn't he hinting that he would not 'penalise' cheap aviation for the masses?

So aviation will still exempt from significant taxation or CO2 control. Not that it will make much difference given peak oil.

BAU thinking.

Posted: 15 Jul 2009, 09:02
by SunnyJim
RalphW wrote:Wasn't he hinting that he would not 'penalise' cheap aviation for the masses?

So aviation will still exempt from significant taxation or CO2 control. Not that it will make much difference given peak oil.

BAU thinking.
For the time being. This paper appears to be focusing on the generation side of the equation, which will be interesting. On the radio this morning he covered the basics, albeit in a lightweight spun kind of a way. i.e. We're going to need everything (renewables, nuclear etc), energy security, increasing demand for fossil fuels, no cheap energy future. Oh and climate change added as an after thought....

Don't be fooled. This paper isn't about tackling climate change. It is the goverments peak oil mitigation strategy.

Posted: 15 Jul 2009, 09:33
by Vortex
My mind reading and Google skills are failing me this morning ... is there a link to this paper?

Posted: 15 Jul 2009, 09:44
by Vortex
Doh! Sorted!

Milliband is in fact spelled Miliband ...

Posted: 15 Jul 2009, 11:24
by SunnyJim
Looks like it will be availiable after Ed's speach at 1pm.

http://www.whitehallpages.net/modules.p ... 92&catid=0

It's named the 'UK Low Carbon Transition Plan', an encoraging title even if the contents don't bear scrutiny. At least the UK will have a plan now rather than sticking the government heads firmly in the sand.

Posted: 15 Jul 2009, 11:35
by SunnyJim
Ed Miliband wrote:"We are going to minimise the costs as much as possible, but it is true there is not a low-cost energy future out there.

"There is a high-carbon, high-cost future, because we see big growth in demand from China and India which will drive up prices.

"We could become more and more dependent on that and quite insecure in our energy. Or we can go for more home-grown energy which will also cost, but I actually think the costs will be less in the end, because the costs of climate change if we don't stop it are going to be enormous.

"I think it is the right thing to do. We have got to plan for it and make it as fair as we can."

Posted: 15 Jul 2009, 12:16
by emordnilap
RalphW wrote:Wasn't he hinting that he would not 'penalise' cheap aviation for the masses?
You mean cheap aviation for rich people? :lol:

Posted: 15 Jul 2009, 12:43
by re
Just been listening with one ear on the tv. I'm sure he just mentioned something about learning form the transition towns movement. And I think he said something about keeping our gas imports at 2010 levels until 2020 - I guess that makes any talk of a gas glut irrelevant.

Posted: 15 Jul 2009, 12:45
by re
Obviously cricket is more important than any future energy plan so BBC News have left his speech to interview Flintoff :roll:

Posted: 15 Jul 2009, 12:58
by SunnyJim
How very British....

"Now we'll leave the fate of the nation to the public schoolboys, while we switch to coverage of the Cricket. More tea?" :lol:

Posted: 15 Jul 2009, 13:37
by IanG
bbc news just had an item on an airline for pets :shock:

either that or I've accidently ingested some acid and I'm with Alice at the tea party.......

Posted: 15 Jul 2009, 13:40
by SunnyJim
Can anyone find a download link for the actual white paper?

Posted: 15 Jul 2009, 13:50
by IanG

Posted: 15 Jul 2009, 14:03
by biffvernon
There's a lot of potentially good stuff in there. For example, from page 98
Clarifying Ofgem’s remit
The Energy Act 2008 made it clearer that the principal objective of Ofgem in exercising its functions under the Gas Act 1986 and the Electricity Act 1989 is to protect the interests of future as well as existing consumers.
The Government now proposes to amend the legislation to clarify that this
objective includes security of supply and reducing carbon emissions. These proposed changes will be complemented by new Social and Environmental Guidance to be published shortly.30
I think that's rather important.