Ebola outbreak, and other potential epidemics

madibe · Post by **madibe** » 13 Oct 2014, 22:40

Mean Mr Mustard.... I don't think we have Harriers anymore or an Ark Royal ... erm that would be your point, I think...

madibe · Post by **madibe** » 13 Oct 2014, 23:43

BBC news has just had a discussion where Ebola was mentioned as 'not of significant risk' in the west. So that's ok then.

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 14 Oct 2014, 03:30

snow hope wrote:...If we don't want to see millions (billions) dyeing, we need to quarantine the countries affected NOW. One has to ask why this has/is not happening?? I can only draw one conclusion, that is TPTB want it to reduce the global population. .......

The 1% who run the finance system won't want to reduce the global population so much as the poor, subsistence population who have very little affect on the financial system. They would be very worried if a pandemic affected financially active populations. A reduction in the poor would allow for greater resource use, and financial activity, by the rest of us and hence greater profits for the 1%.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 14 Oct 2014, 06:59

clv101 wrote:
biffvernon wrote:We're all amateurs here.
...I'm half way through reading Ebola right now...

Huh. You must have the electrickery version. Being a grandad, I'm waiting for my paper copy.

fuzzy · Post by **fuzzy** » 14 Oct 2014, 07:05

I recommend Doc CJ peters book - Virus Hunter. A bit wordy but loads of good info up to 1997.

another_exlurker · Post by **another_exlurker** » 14 Oct 2014, 13:36

maudibe wrote:BBC news has just had a discussion where Ebola was mentioned as 'not of significant risk' in the west. So that's ok then.

At the moment, it isn't. Provided it stays contained to West Africa, of course.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 14 Oct 2014, 14:01

A risk is not something bad that is happening now but something bad that might happen in the future.

Clearly Ebola is a significant risk in the west.

Post by **adam2** » 14 Oct 2014, 14:22

biffvernon wrote:A risk is not something bad that is happening now but something bad that might happen in the future.

Clearly Ebola is a significant risk in the west.

Yes

Mean Mr Mustard · Post by **Mean Mr Mustard** » 14 Oct 2014, 15:22

UK could see 10 ebola cases by Christmas: Hunt's warning as Heathrow screening starts today

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z3G80n5m6I

And if the NHS 'whack a mole' contact tracing effort breaks down anywhere among those possible ten? After all, Sierra Leone only had 16 reported cases on 27 May....

Or it spreads to a mega-slum like Lagos?

And over in Latin America, everybody hugs... (at least when they're not busy forming death squads)

Another problem will be the repeated false alarms will have made people laid back and lax when they start slipping through...

snow hope · Post by **snow hope** » 14 Oct 2014, 15:33

I spoke to a couple of hospital medical consultants today and they said it was very worrying..... cases are expected in N Ireland they said....

jonny2mad · Post by **jonny2mad** » 14 Oct 2014, 16:46

http://youngcons.com/breaking-horrible- ... ola-nurse/boyfriend of nurse with ebola who treated liberian man who died seems to have symptoms of ebola

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 14 Oct 2014, 17:53

http://online.wsj.com/articles/some-ebo ... 1413153854

MONROVIA, Liberia—Some of the teams sent to retrieve bodies of suspected Ebola victims here are collecting cash instead, allegedly accepting bribes to issue death certificates to families saying their loved ones died of other causes and leaving the body, locals and health workers say.

It is a troubling development for an outbreak in which dead bodies are a major source of contagion and one that suggests local corruption could help undermine the international effort to contain the virus.

Liberian funerals typically include washing the body and keeping it for a wake that can last days as relatives and friends come by and kiss the corpse before it is buried, often in a family cemetery nearby. In addition, Ebola infection carries a stigma in the country and people sometimes don’t want to admit a family member died of the disease.

I'm tempted to describe this as natural selection in action: death by stupidity.

Post by **clv101** » 14 Oct 2014, 18:56

jonny2mad wrote:http://youngcons.com/breaking-horrible- ... ola-nurse/boyfriend of nurse with ebola who treated liberian man who died seems to have symptoms of ebola

The email in the article clearly states he has NOT shown any signs or symptoms of the Ebola virus.

Post by **clv101** » 14 Oct 2014, 19:21

If anyone whats to learn more about epidemics, EdX are currently running a MOOC: HKU01x Epidemics

Post by **adam2** » 14 Oct 2014, 19:56

Official death toll is now said to be "about 4,500" source of this is BBC TV news quoting WHO figures.