Hurricane Ike

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 12 Sep 2008, 13:20

Whatever happened to that ship? Did they break it up or are they waiting for the next storm surge to refloat her?

Erik · Post by **Erik** » 12 Sep 2008, 14:16

biffvernon wrote:Whatever happened to that ship? Did they break it up or are they waiting for the next storm surge to refloat her?

No idea, but a more pressing question is what is going to happen to THIS ship:

Meanwhile, the Coast Guard before dawn Friday received a radio call for help about a 584-foot bulk freighter stranded 90 miles southeast of Galveston.

Petty Office Patrick Kelley told The Associated Press the ship, hauling petroleum coke, broke down in the path of the hurricane "in a potentially dangerous situation."

"They're so far offshore, you're looking at only helicopter responses. Then you're dealing with winds," Kelley said, saying the Coast Guard was weighing its response options.

No details were immediately provided by the Coast Guard on the name of the ship or where it was headed. The vessel was carrying 22 people.

skeptik · Post by **skeptik** » 12 Sep 2008, 15:26

Water already rising in the streets of Galveston
http://www.galveston.com/webcams/thestr ... meset.html

... I could only get the top half of the webcam image to load.

skeptik · Post by **skeptik** » 12 Sep 2008, 15:34

Erik wrote: No idea, but a more pressing question is what is going to happen to THIS ship:

If they haven't got power to steer into the waves, at some point it's going to get rolled over. Hope the helicopters can get there in time.

Andy Hunt · Post by **Andy Hunt** » 12 Sep 2008, 15:41

skeptik wrote:Water already rising in the streets of Galveston
http://www.galveston.com/webcams/thestr ... meset.html

... I could only get the top half of the webcam image to load.

Can't get any of it to load, maybe the camera is underwater.

IanG · Post by **IanG** » 12 Sep 2008, 15:42

Hope the helicopters can get there in time

You've got to be one ballsy pilot to fly into that....

Not sure the coast guard will do it, could easily lose both the helicoper & the crew

Blue Peter · Post by **Blue Peter** » 12 Sep 2008, 16:07

IanG wrote:
Hope the helicopters can get there in time
You've got to be one ballsy pilot to fly into that....

Not sure the coast guard will do it, could easily lose both the helicoper & the crew

I think that there was a quote on the TOD thread that the coastguard aren't going to risk it,

Peter.

skeptik · Post by **skeptik** » 12 Sep 2008, 16:58

Andy Hunt wrote:
skeptik wrote:Water already rising in the streets of Galveston
http://www.galveston.com/webcams/thestr ... meset.html

... I could only get the top half of the webcam image to load.
Can't get any of it to load, maybe the camera is underwater.

Thought that might happen, so I grabbed it. The feeds from Galveston have been gradually deteriorating since this morning.
View Here
Looks like water pouring in from a side street. Alarming that the surge is having this effect so early - 9.17am local time.

Erik · Post by **Erik** » 12 Sep 2008, 21:04

Live coverage on three or four TV channels at the same time here:
http://www.maroonspoon.com/wx/ike.html
Galveston already looks like Venice and landfall is many, many hours away yet. I can't believe how many thousands of people are still hanging around there, walking their dogs and taking photos!

RevdTess · Post by **RevdTess** » 12 Sep 2008, 22:27

skeptik wrote:
Andy Hunt wrote:
skeptik wrote:Water already rising in the streets of Galveston
http://www.galveston.com/webcams/thestr ... meset.html

... I could only get the top half of the webcam image to load.
Can't get any of it to load, maybe the camera is underwater.
Thought that might happen, so I grabbed it. The feeds from Galveston have been gradually deteriorating since this morning.
View Here
Looks like water pouring in from a side street. Alarming that the surge is having this effect so early - 9.17am local time.

I got part of an image from that feed, dated 15:10 (9:10pm our time). The sidewalk area just above the waterline on your pic was very much submerged by that point.

snow hope · Post by **snow hope** » 13 Sep 2008, 00:18

Wow Erik, that feed is incredible - I am hooked!

Erik · Post by **Erik** » 13 Sep 2008, 09:20

snow hope wrote:Wow Erik, that feed is incredible - I am hooked!

I spent an embarrassing amount of time watching last night too

. I must get a life... but in the meantime I'll just watch a bit more - looks like the eye of the storm is crossing the coastline right now.

skeptik · Post by **skeptik** » 13 Sep 2008, 10:26

Erik wrote:
snow hope wrote:Wow Erik, that feed is incredible - I am hooked!
I spent an embarrassing amount of time watching last night too . I must get a life... but in the meantime I'll just watch a bit more - looks like the eye of the storm is crossing the coastline right now.

Ditto...

Its huge, but fortunately the wind intensities aren't too bad, not exactly Andrew. Most of the casualties are going to be in the 'stay behinds' down on the coast swept away in the surge. What happens to the 40% of residents who stayed behind on Galveston Island during the second surge after the eye is most worrying.

Thinking ahead, one wonders how long its going to be until America runs out of gasoline. Quite a few refineries are going to be out, at least temporarily. The 'Mother of all cleanup jobs' is in prospect.

Erik · Post by **Erik** » 13 Sep 2008, 11:39

A bit of good news apparently:

GALVESTON, Texas (AP) - The Coast Guard says a 22-man crew of a disabled freighter adrift in the Gulf of Mexico safely rode out the worst of Hurricane Ike and was waiting for a tow to land. The 584-foot ship, carrying a load of petroleum coke, withstood 20-plus-foot waves and winds more than 90 mph.

Now those sailors will have an interesting tale to tell their grandchildren!

skeptik · Post by **skeptik** » 13 Sep 2008, 20:00

US oil refining shut by Ike is 3.783 mln bpd-DOE
http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsN ... 8920080913

WASHINGTON, Sept 13 (Reuters) - The total amount of crude oil that can be handled by the 14 refineries in Texas shut by Hurricane Ike is 3.783 million barrels a day, the Energy Department said on Saturday.

Separately, the department said 28 natural gas processing plants along the Gulf Coast with a combined capacity of 13.5 billion cubic feet of gas a day were shut by Hurricane Ike and the lingering effects of Hurricane Gustav.

In its daily hurricane update, the department said it has not received reports yet of any damage to natural gas pipelines or production infrastructure. (Reporting by Tom Doggett; Editing by Doina Chiacu)

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I think the US uses 20mbd crude.... approximately. Refineries pre-IKE running at 85% capacity. (Correct me if Im wrong - haven't checked)