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stumuzz wrote:Using siri the driver’s hands do not need to leave the steering wheel.
Fair enough: not being a driver or a phone-nut I had no idea what it was. HOWEVER it has been shown that "hands-free" talking distracts drivers and is just as dangerous as good ol'fashioned hands-on (and a lot less so than just talking with a passenger). Legal it may be, but the law may soon catch up with science.
stumuzz wrote:Second point. The clever ideas are usually the beneficial ones.
But not always, and there's no mechanism within the corporate set-up for weeding out the others. Someone needs to do this: Government at present, imperfect though it may be, is all we've got.
stumuzz wrote:Third point. Your subtle use of linguistics, by using the word ‘force’ ...
was a direct response to your use of it!
stumuzz wrote:Brute force has nothing to do corporatism. Who forces you to
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None of this makes me anti-tech or (always) anti-corporation (after all I have a sodding great lump of hi-tech electronics, made by a large corporation, up on the roof :) ) Just like the type of people who would otherwise be too competitive for their own and everybody else's survival, corporations need governing.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20197710
Apple paid less that 2% corporation tax on its profits outside the US, its filing with US regulators has shown.

Apple paid $713m (£445m) in the year to 29 September on foreign pre-tax profits of $36.8bn (£23.0bn), a rate of 1.9%.
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It's about time we dropped corporation tax altogether and put a tax on sales with no claims or rebates allowed. A multinational business isn't going to avoid investing in and creating jobs in a country because of a sales tax.
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kenneal - lagger wrote:It's about time we dropped corporation tax altogether and put a tax on sales tax
VAT?
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kenneal - lagger wrote:It's about time we dropped corporation tax altogether and put a tax on sales with no claims or rebates allowed. A multinational business isn't going to avoid investing in and creating jobs in a country because of a sales tax.
Do you mean a tax on gross revenue?


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Blue Peter wrote:
kenneal - lagger wrote:It's about time we dropped corporation tax altogether and put a tax on sales with no claims or rebates allowed. A multinational business isn't going to avoid investing in and creating jobs in a country because of a sales tax.
Do you mean a tax on gross revenue?


Peter.
Yes.

It wouldn't be the same as VAT as VAT involves subtracting your inputs first. A straight sales tax would be easier to account for but would obviously be lower than VAT to account for the inputs.
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Blue Peter wrote: Do you mean a tax on gross revenue?

Peter.
How would that work?

If i have a 10% tax on gross revenue of 1k and my costs in supplying the goods and services are £970, then i lose money and stop trading. Or do you mean gross profit?
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That's the problem with VAT or Sales taxes, the end user always pays in the end, or the product stops being sold.

Fair corporation tax is the only way, like with income tax for ordinary folk, the tax is payable where the work is done. It should be the same for CT.
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stumuzz wrote:
Blue Peter wrote: Do you mean a tax on gross revenue?

Peter.
How would that work?

If i have a 10% tax on gross revenue of 1k and my costs in supplying the goods and services are £970, then i lose money and stop trading. Or do you mean gross profit?
I guess that you would have to cease trading. Though, since this would be mainly devised to capture multinationals who avoid tax through various scams, I expect that you could put some banding in so that the local guy who can't rent his brand from his Swiss sibling firm won't be caught,


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I hope you can see this a it's on Facebook, but it covers this suggestion quite well
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Take them over, no chat, no bill, no nothing just walk in and take the whole company and trade it for the people of the UK and have it own by us. Want to dodge duty then have that :P
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