Petrol duty and VAT rises to increase price of fuel

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Post by Pepperman »

Diesel and petrol are about the same price at the moment:

http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/statistics/da ... nv0105.xls

There was only a penny difference between the resource prices back in April.

There isn't enough diesel refining capacity in Europe hence diesel prices have been pushed up.
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Lower petrol prices for remote areas ?
More here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12203099
Sounds a wonderfull idea :( , how is it to be decided what is a remote area ?, clearly a well paid commitee must investigate the matter, whilst touring the country in Range Rovers and staying in nice hotels !

Having decided what are to be "remote areas", perhaps this could be re-defined as slightly remote, average remote, and very remote. A second commitee could report on this matter, perhaps with EU help.

Now decide by how much the petrol price should increase in "non-remote areas", perhaps there should be some transition system for "non remote but disadvantaged areas" third commitee required.

Now decide, how is this discounted fuel to be sold ? by a lower tax rate in remote areas perhaps ? OH NO ! that wont work, for fat cat bankers might drive through the remote area on the way to their country house, and obtain cheap fuel intended for locals.

Perhaps those in remote areas could be issued a special pass or permit allowing the purchase of discounted fuel ? OH NO ! that wont do, for we have decided against ID cards which this might resemble. And loyal peasants might be pressured to fill up their fat cat employers Range Rovers with the discounted fuel.

More commitees required, think of the employment created, a whole new government department would be needed, perhaps even a new ministry !
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Maybe we should just have TEQs?

New report launched this Tuesday. Get your copy here: http://teqs.net/report/
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adam2 wrote:Lower petrol prices for remote areas ?

A report on the local BBC news, claimed, that the rural North Yorkshires economy was grinding to a halt, due to the recent rise in fuel duty and VAT, in fact some people were not renewing their house insurance so they could keep driving.

So your average UK motorist drives approx 280km per week and an average size car consumes about 6.7 l/100km. 19litres per week x 3p = 57p. :roll:
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A bad case of the Yorkshire Wallet-Moth :D
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Perhaps if people were really worried about the cost of petrol they would SLOW DOWN! many more miles could be gleaned from a tank if people would chill out. Be interesting to see how expensive it must get before the penny drops and behavior changes.
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biffvernon wrote:Maybe we should just have TEQs?

New report launched this Tuesday. Get your copy here: http://teqs.net/report/
This needs repeating.
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biffvernon wrote:Maybe we should just have TEQs?

New report launched this Tuesday. Get your copy here: http://teqs.net/report/
This needs repeating.
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the mad cyclist wrote:an average size car consumes about 6.7 l/100km.
And there's one huge problem, TMC. And I presume that's a UK figure, so is actually pretty good compared to our mad Yankee cousins?
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Letter from our maverick city councillor to our local rag:
Another way of looking at it is this: the world took one million years to produce the amount of oil we burn in one year. That is how quickly we a burning our planet’s resources.
Classic stuff :D
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Silas wrote:Perhaps if people were really worried about the cost of petrol they would SLOW DOWN! many more miles could be gleaned from a tank if people would chill out. Be interesting to see how expensive it must get before the penny drops and behavior changes.
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I'd wager the vast majority of fuel is burnt at slow speeds in rush hour traffic rather than by boy racers late at night.
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DominicJ wrote: I'd wager the vast majority of fuel is burnt at slow speeds in rush hour traffic rather than by boy racers late at night.
Yes, so what does that proof?
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