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Just needs the flag of "The allied states of America" to be flown as well :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU17mmXEfdU
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https://off-guardian.org/2021/01/07/the ... Kzp0ZW4sRI
“The Storming of the Capitol”: America’s Reichstag Fire? The four big lies underpinning this story show it was likely a staged event.

Kit Knightly

The media are already spinning a narrative around the events in Washington DC. One that bears no resemblance to reality, does not hold up to any kind of scrutiny and will have massive, far-reaching consequences for all of us.

They’re calling it “one of the darkest days in our nations history”, a day that will “live in infamy”. It will likely be memed into a shorthand date – 1/6/21, like 9/11 and 7/7. It will be the day “American democracy was attacked and prevailed”, the day the nation nearly fell to “fascists”.

It will become just one more grand sweeping illusion upon which the teetering structures of US Imperial power are built.

The story we are being told goes as follows:

Yesterday, as congress was preparing to pass the vote endorsing Joe Biden’s election victory, thousands of violent right-wing thugs stormed the Capitol building.

Acting according to Trump’s wishes, and with his endorsement, these domestic terrorists overran the police barricades in an attempt to overthrow the senate and preserve Trump’s presidency.

Fortunately the police were able to secure the situation, drive the violent rioters out and the democratic process was able to continue.

Not one single part of this story is true:

There was no “storming”
There was no “incitement”
There was no “violence”
And the riot effectively ended Trump’s presidency.

Let’s tackle them one at a time.

1. There was no “storming”. Rather videos show police opening barriers to let the “rioters” in.

In the entrance hall, the “violent thugs” respected the velvet ropes and kept in orderly lines, took a few selfies with the cops, posed for the press and – when the main events were over – they were quietly allowed to leave.

Compare and contrast the police’s treatment of those people inside the capitol, with their later treatment of protesters breaking curfew on the streets.

2. There was no “incitement”. All of Trump’s social media posts on the subject instructed people to “go home” “with peace and love”.

Is that inciting violence?

Twitter and facebook took the totally unprecedented step of completely removing those posts, and blocked him posting any further. They claimed to be preventing further violence, but it looks more like they concealed Trump’s denunciations of violence.

3. There was no violence. Indeed whether or not Trump “incited” anything is moot, because there was no violence. Disregard the reports of chemical weapons, pipe bombs or IEDs – none of which ever appeared. None of the “rioters” are as yet shown to have hurt anyone.

The only person reportedly killed or injured was a protester allegedly shot by the police. Compare and contrast the attitude of the media to this “violence”, vs the “fiery but mostly peaceful” protests all last summer.

4. The riot ended Trump’s presidency. Although the Congressional session was widely described in the press as the “confirmation vote” for Joe Biden’s election victory, it was actually rather more than that.

VP Mike Pence was chairing a joint-session which intended to allow full speeches from those opposing the election and maintaining there had been fraud.

The violence brought this session to an end prematurely, totally undermined Trump’s legal and procedural challenges and killed any chance he had of overturning the electrical college vote. No sooner was the “attack” over, than many of the Republicans in both houses who were planning to oppose Biden’s election backed-down

More than that, it seems Trump’s “incitement” of the rioters means he may well be removed from office by enforcement of the 25th amendment, which would end not just this term, but make it illegal for him to run again in the future.

Facebook and Twitter have outright banned him from posting. The press and television pundits are openly accusing him of treason and sedition.

So, who has really benefitted from the “chaos at the Capitol”? Because it surely isn’t Donald Trump.

One should always be wary of any event which “accidentally” achieves the exact opposite of its stated or apparent intent.

In the title, I refer to this as America’s Reichstag fire, and that’s not just emotive language, the parallels are pretty clear: A staged attack on a political building, deliberately misattributed to political enemies and used to consolidate the power of a freshly installed leader.

Even the media coverage is similar, the Nazi government and their tools in the press talked about it in the same exact terms as the US establishment is describing this farcical “coup attempt”. Aiming to terrify people into thinking they were on the verge of an all-out civil war.

Read this quote, and ask yourself if it couldn’t be lifted almost completely from the front page of the Washington Post or New York Times today:

The burning of the Reichstag was intended to be the signal for a bloody uprising and civil war. Large-scale pillaging in Berlin was planned for as early as four o’clock in the morning on Tuesday. It has been determined that starting today throughout Germany acts of terrorism were to begin against prominent individuals, against private property, against the lives and safety of the peaceful population, and general civil war was to be unleashed…

Within 24 hours of the Reichstag burning, the German President had passed the Reichstag Fire Decree, which declared a state of emergency that totally reversed every civil right the Weimar Republic had guaranteed its citizens:

Articles 114, 115, 117, 118, 123, 124 and 153 of the Constitution of the German Reich are suspended until further notice. It is therefore permissible to restrict the rights of personal freedom [habeas corpus], freedom of (opinion) expression, including the freedom of the press, the freedom to organize and assemble, the privacy of postal, telegraphic and telephonic communications.

While these freedoms have already been severely undermined in the US by the Patriot Act and its successors, those few rights left to American citizens will definitely be under threat once Trump is finally removed and Biden (or Harris) is put in his place.

Although there is not yet any talk of legislation, it’s certainly true there are whispers of purges and other measures to “protect the constitution”.

Some prominent voices are calling for all lawmakers backing Trump to be expelled from office. The Washington Post claimed “seditious Republicans must be held accountable”.

The anti-social media campaign has begun again in earnest too, with Parler and GAB already being blamed for allowing “violent language” on their platforms.

As Twitter and Facebook limit discussion, alternative platforms will be shutdown. Enforcing a corporate monopoly that cooperates with the state…the very definition of fascism.

All this in the name of protecting the nation from “neo-nazi thugs” or “white supremacists” or other phantom threats. In the name of “protecting the constitution”, they are tearing it to pieces. In the name of “preventing a coup”, they are carrying one out in front of our eyes.

It puts in mind Huey Long’s famous quote when asked if fascism would ever come to America:

"Sure, we’ll have Fascism in this country and we’ll call it anti-Fascism.”
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They really have found a sucker in you haven't they, LJ. A deranged, sycophantic President was taped for TV inciting the crowd to go to the Capitol and "be strong" long before he asked for a peaceful protest. He only asked for a peaceful protest after he was embarrassed into it by fellow Republicans who could see the damage he was causing. As for no violence, I saw plenty of violence with protesters pushing the police back and pepper spray coming from both sides.

As many commentators have pointed out, if that was a black crowd the National Guard would have been called out before the protest started as happened last year and if that was a black crowd the police would have been shooting.

Use your eyes, LJ, and open them and your Spiked mind to the truth. Trump is a nutter who shouldn't be allowed to stand again.
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Here's a description of Trump and where he is coming from from CASSE, The Centre for that Advancement of the Steady State Economy. And where he is coming from is nothing to do with the good of the working man but the wealth of himself first and then the ultra rich mates who paid for him to get where he has been for the last four years. The working man of the US is just cannon fodder to keep him in a position to make money and the suckers just lap him up!!
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Pence was just about to reveal a mountain of evidence that the election was stolen and the result was to be overturned, so communist paedophile democrats used alien lizard shapeshifter technology to assume the appearance of well-known Trump supporters and mount a false-flag operation.

It's the only logical explanation - FACT.
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You left out the government mind control rays, that force people to vote contrary to their real intentions.
Though the shape shifting alien lizards could presumably vote many times, each time impersonating a different real voter.
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Put John Sullivan blm into Google search
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We've just witnessed in the UK politicians and media giving the general public a great big middle finger. For 4 years.
Not so long ago, Boris was a probable beater-upper of women. A vile racist. He was going to be arrested. :lol:

If brexit was stopped, and all that happened was a Washington, I'd be saying good on them if a tad tame.

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Hopefully after Trumps abandonment of his supporters they might now realise that Donald Trump only cares about Donald Trump and will use any body and any means to advance the interests of Donald Trump. If anyone gets in his way they will be dumped by the wayside and those people who did his bidding and marched on the Capitol only to embarrass him have now got in his way so must be disposed of. That is the sort of person that Donald Trump is and hopefully people who supported him will now realise this and find someone more suitable to support.

The worry is that that person will the the ambitious Josh Hawley whose record can be perused here.
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adam2 wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 12:04 Just needs the flag of "The allied states of America" to be flown as well :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU17mmXEfdU
Very good series that. It really got me thinking ... and more importantly, acting about preparations.

I did some research about the half/half flag and turns out it is quite rare but has been mentioned before in the US news media.
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Little John wrote: 08 Jan 2021, 14:40 https://off-guardian.org/2021/01/07/the ... Kzp0ZW4sRI
1. There was no “storming”. Rather videos show police opening barriers to let the “rioters” in.
You're sharing nonsense again. On the very first point in the off-guardian piece, see this video https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/1347077988756676608

The police did not open barriers to let the rioters in. If you genuinely believe that - you've been manipulated. If you don't genuinely believe that but are sharing it anyway you're manipulating others with false information. Manipulating with false info is like treating people as no more than a means to an end. You aren't letting them deal with the truth themselves to make their own decisions. It's disrespectful.

See this interview with the actual journalist who shot the video the video off-guardian are referring to: https://twitter.com/justinjm1/status/13 ... 7613199360
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Perhaps it will be thought of as a 'Sack of Rome' moment by future historians? Compare and Contrast as the question used to say in my O-level English assignment.

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Ha ha ha!. I love it! Especially the man with his feet on Pelosi's desk.
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Think there may be a tad of macho posturing here (heaven forbid anybody on this forum could be
accused of that). A less zoomed in and cropped picture apparently shows that they could have just
walked up the steps like everybody else!
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The inescapable and inevitable truth is that liberals really are morons and, (Removed KN.)

Liberals, of both the "left" and "right" are so blinded by their hatred of all things they perceive to be Trumpian, they seem genuinely incapable of understanding how terrifying it is that non-elected Big Tech companies can overtly censor the sitting president of the United States. Indeed, the term "liberal", itself, is really just a place-marker in this particular time and place for much older sociopolitical phenomena. Namely, the bourgeoisie and petite bourgeoisie. In previous periods, such phenomena were equally as likely to be called "conservatives". Which, in truth, is possibly a more accurate descriptor. But, then we live in an upside down world at present where up is down, black is white and the truth is a lie. So, nothing is surprising at present.

You morons really wont get it until your own freedoms are completely gone. A process that is already, you may be be assured, well underway.
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I for one, don't have hatred of all things perceived to be Trumpian. I think there's merit to the philosophy of 'traditionalism' as brought to the White House by Bannon (and to Bolsonaro by Olavo de Carvalho and to Putin by Dugin). Traditionalism is apart from fascism, liberalism and communism - but is so poorly understood/promoted it gets lost under ill-fitting descriptions. The vast majority of Trumpism's critics are too simplistic, attacking a caricature.

This is a really remarkable, first hand, real time recording of the Capital attack. Remarkable as it's still on YouTube! Running from the first police barricade outside to the fatal shooting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfiS8Ms ... hnSullivan

It gives a good account of the protesters and the police.
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Potemkin Villager wrote: 11 Jan 2021, 13:18 Think there may be a tad of macho posturing here (heaven forbid anybody on this forum could be
accused of that). A less zoomed in and cropped picture apparently shows that they could have just
walked up the steps like everybody else!
Maybe they were just showing off their wall climbing skills. I think that wall is not truely vertical either. Also I think that contemporary historical accounts indicate that the Visigoths did not go around naked particularly when sacking Rome.
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