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Post by isenhand »

Cabrone wrote:Sorry to break the bad news to Dubya but nothing in this universe is renewable
well, renawable has the definition of :

Renewable energy (sources) or RES capture their energy from existing flows of energy, from on-going natural processes, such as sunshine, wind, wave power , flowing water (hydropower), biological processes such as anaerobic digestion, and geothermal heat flow.

With that definition we can find plenty of things that fall into the category of renewable but not nuclear!

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Post by Billhook »

Isenhand -

the definition you've found is actually vague enough to include nuclear power,
in that the fossilization of uranium oxide is most certainly an "ongoing natural process".
Given some eons of time that oxide is also part of an "existing flow of energy".

What the definition lacks is any idea of the constraints imposed by the goal of sustainability,
which is of course exactly why the Downing St hacks ditched the term Sustainable
in favour of hyping the entirely malleable newspeak term "Renewable".

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Hmmm ? interesting point. I can?t think of a way of wiggling out of that one. Maybe we need to add something about time duration? After all, all sources of energy run out in the end but we could say that ?renewables? have a much longer time duration than non- renewables?. Solar, wind etc would last for a time period measured in billions of years where as uranium would have a time period measured in decades at our current level of use.

Another though, renewables take energy out of the natural energy flow where as non-renewables don?t?


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Billhook wrote: the fossilization of uranium oxide
Conjurs up all sorts of interesting visions but is not a process that exists.

Only the preservation of traces of once living organisms via various processes can come under the broad hat of 'fossilisation'

sedimentary minerals are buried, and metamorphosed by the action of heat, pressure and chemical reaction into different minerals, but are never said to be 'fossilised'

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Post by Billhook »

Skeptic -

our information differs on this point.

I'm informed that in the parlance of professional Geologists, the metamorphic process by which uranium oxide develops
is, specifically and technically,
one of fossilization.

Which is why nuclear energy can be shown to rely on the foulest of the four finite filthy fossil fuels !

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