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Bandidoz wrote:On Radio 4 last night there was a discussion about this and some mention of how the US "may become a net exporter of oil and gas" due to fracking. Dreamers!
If the US is the world's third largest producer of oil and they have to import oil as well, forgive me if I say there's something seriously wrong with such predictions. :lol:
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See the 'frack thread' for my views -- http://www.powerswitch.org.uk/forum/vie ... 488#227488

These announcements are all about "corporate welfare", not energy policy.

And in any case how can a "ban" on fracking "end" when there was no legal or procedural instrument which prevented development (e.g. in Scotland they've been drilling for a while now). It was a verbal agreement with Cuadrilla, whose work was being held-up by local waste disposal problems in any case.
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http://frack-off.org.uk/three-lords-and ... overnment/

This article shows the links between four influential peers and their personal vested interests in shale gas.

Lord Green, Lord Howell and Lord Browne and Baroness Hogg.

Important reading.
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I've been watching a Yes Minister DVD this week. 30 years ago, the antics of politicians and senior civil servants seemed very funny, but doesn't seem so amusing now :cry:.
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biffvernon wrote:Lord Green, Lord Howell and Lord Browne and Baroness Hogg.
When I used the two slides in the extreme energy talk {pages 17/18} showing the "rogues gallery" of non-executive ministers, SPADs et. al. in Ammanford -- the local economy of which was ravaged by the last Tory government -- you could easily read the expletives being muttered on the lips of the audience! :lol:

...I think they thought these people were part of an elite mochyn them
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A bit of sanity from Nafeez Ahmed on the economics of shale gas
http://nafeez.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/th ... farce.html
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I'm hearing the same thing over and over. Nobody is making money from shale gas due to the gas glut. This is due to the success of shale gas as a cheap and plentiful energy source.

You will see a rebound of the american ecconomy this year and into the next 5 years due to this cheap energy. Transport companies are already converting their fleets to natral gas due to the fact that gas is 1/10th the price of oil for the same engery content.

We all know it wont last and it will probably destroy the planet but in the short term its looking rosy. Sit back and enjoy the ride as even if you get off it wont have any effect.

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Well I've written to my MP citing http://nafeez.blogspot.co.uk/2012/12/th ... farce.html and Deborah Rogers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYaC7L2svoQ, in the forlorn hope it might make the tiniest difference.
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If the gas companies can stick it out until a shed load of gas power stations/gas powered trucks come on line to boost demand and knock the price up they will make it on the much higher gas prices. It the new demand doesn't kick in soon enough the oil cos will go bust. It's a game of Russian Roulette.
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mobbsey wrote:
biffvernon wrote:Lord Green, Lord Howell and Lord Browne and Baroness Hogg.
When I used the two slides in the extreme energy talk {pages 17/18} showing the "rogues gallery" of non-executive ministers, SPADs et. al.
SPADs? Signals Passed At Danger?? (sorry, showing my age here...)
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RenewableCandy wrote:SPADs? Signals Passed At Danger??
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...you know, those people like you see in that weird BBC Parliament fly-on-the-wall programme about daily political business, The Thick of It
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