Bachmann: I'll bring back $2 gas

[DominicJ]

That doesnt prove what it says it proves.

Social mobility is the ability for a mixed race child from a single parent family, raised by his grandparents, to become president.

Ed, Nick and Dave?

For instance, according to the OECD, 47 percent of the economic advantage that high-earning fathers in the United States have over low-earning fathers is transmitted to their sons, compare to, say, 17 percent in Australia and 19 percent in Canada.

Wow, American dads invest in their children, whereas Australian dads leave theirs to the state, some lesson.....

I cant find anything on relative mobility anywhere,

[Blue Peter]

That's not what it says,


Peter.

[lurker]

I'd like to know what prices they charge @ Primrose hill. Most farm shops seem to charge very high prices, so they are a luxury atm for the upper middle classes, who can a afford too drive form miles too the farm gate just to buy a few groceries.

This means they will remain a niche market unless peak oil etc drives up supermarket food prices, and after peak oil who could afford to go there to buy there stuff? Factor in transport costs of produce to the nearest town market & reduction in there customer catchment area when fuel cost rises.


As for the volunteers surley they won't be much volunteering after peak oil. More like serfs.



Maybe peak oil will actually make places like theese less common?

http://www.farmersguardian.com/home/bus ... 52.article

See the trend in organic produce sales is hardly encouraging if someone is thinking of trying to earn a living from it.....

On the other hand I think veg seeds sales were up? (can't find any recent 2011 figures)

Im not sure if the veg growing surge its just a fad of a longer term trend?

[UndercoverElephant]

Im not sure if the veg growing surge its just a fad of a longer term trend?

I don't think it is a fad. Not when it costs 25p to buy from a supermarket a tomato which tastes of nothing and any idiot with some outside space can grow tomatoes for less than a tenth of that cost. And that's just tomatoes...

I have loads at the moment, but for some reason they are stubbornly refusing to ripen.

[clv101]

We haven't bought any fresh fruit and veg for a couple of months now - our own squash, courgettes, tomatoes, kale, chard, blackberries, apples, potatoes, onions, garlic, turnips, carrots... are saving us loads.

I could well imagine that most people will be growing at least some bit of food in their gardens within a few years.

[lurker]

I do know several people who dabble in veg growing though but seem to let the majority go to waste coz they find shopping in tesco alot easier or don't really like eating veg that much. Makes me think alot of veg plots are fashion acessories.

Also people who have an apple orchard of nice apples ripe but have bought NZ apples in there fruit bowl!

FACEPALM!

[Blue Peter]

and any idiot with some outside space can grow tomatoes for less than a tenth of that cost. And that's just tomatoes...

I have loads at the moment, but for some reason they are stubbornly refusing to ripen.

The latter paragraph suggests a problem with the assertion in the former, no?

The last few years have not been great for growing tomatoes outside. If we'd had another summer like 2003, you would no doubt be swamped with the things. But relatively cool temperatures, relatively overcast days, and always the threat of tomato blight, mean that for about 11 months out of 12, if you want fresh tomatoes, you need to buy them from somewhere (having a polytunnel would help, of course),


Peter.

[biffvernon]

http://fuelfix.com/blog/2011/08/23/bach ... s-promise/

If you thought Michele Bachmann would back off her sub-$2 gas claim, you better think again.

The Republican candidate stood by her promise of gasoline under two bucks despite receiving criticism from the public and even some of her fellow presidential candidates.

[emordnilap]

And here's another good piece on The Oil Drum from Robert Rapier about Bachmann's vapourspeak.

His 'How much are you willing to pay to be nuke-free?' piece on 17th March was good too - he's well along the journey to TEQs.