Brexit process

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 14 Nov 2018, 08:14

If the demography changes sufficiently and their constituency no longer holds democratic sway then they will not be able to stop it in the inevitable cessation referendum. But, we are a decade or two off that yet and that would have happened anyway at some point and has absolutely nothing to do with Brexit.

If there is an attempt to force it on them before then, there will civil war again in NI. But, that will not have been caused by them. It will have been caused by those doing the forcing.

Lord Beria3 · Post by **Lord Beria3** » 14 Nov 2018, 08:17

Eurointelligence have noted before that the EU is very unlikely to agree to extend the transition by a year to agree to a second referendum, in the unlikely event a UK government requests it before April 2019.

We can apply to rejoin after leaving the EU not before.

Should parliament reject the deal the most likely outcome are either a general election or a mitigated no deal brexit.

A ge will only occur if Tory mps vote for it which is not likely in my opinion because they are likely to lose! Mitigating a no deal brexit is the best course left for the cabinet.

I also wonder if May will table the deal, again, maybe with minor changes, even after rejection once the EU state that it's either agree a deal or no deal exit. That will crush Remainer hopes of the EU colluding with a 2nd referendum before we leave.

My own preference is a mitigated no deal brexit but I think the deal could eventually pass parliament. It's hard to call.

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 14 Nov 2018, 08:20

What is a "mitigated no deal"?

Post by **clv101** » 14 Nov 2018, 09:28

Little John wrote:What is a "mitigated no deal"?

I think he means bare bones deal. It's 'no deal' plus everything that can be agreed over the next few months to keep planes flying, medical materials moving, British immigrants not being thrown out of Spain etc.

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 14 Nov 2018, 09:29

Ah right. You mean the basic shit that should have been sorted a couple of years ago.

Lord Beria3 · Post by **Lord Beria3** » 14 Nov 2018, 10:01

clv101 wrote:
Little John wrote:What is a "mitigated no deal"?
I think he means bare bones deal. It's 'no deal' plus everything that can be agreed over the next few months to keep planes flying, medical materials moving, British immigrants not being thrown out of Spain etc.

Exactly.

Can you please tidy up your own posts! - Ken

fuzzy · Post by **fuzzy** » 14 Nov 2018, 10:52

The british immigrants in Spain are draining the UK money supply and spending it in Spain. I can't see why they would want that to stop.

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 14 Nov 2018, 12:38

General consensus on various places I post is that everybody hates the deal. I am seeing leavers saying remaining as a full member would be better than the deal, and even remainers saying no deal would be better than the deal. There's no way on God's Earth that the DUP will support it, the SNP have come out against it, and a significant chunk of the tory part will reject it. Which means the only way it can get through parliament is if quite a lot of Labour MPs support it. Doesn't seem very likely unless Corbyn does some sort of deal with May.

fuzzy · Post by **fuzzy** » 14 Nov 2018, 14:22

Keep a steady nerve. This is exactly what project fear is all about. What is our future agreement - I haven't seen it, have you?

This is all driven by the City who wants to keep their tax haven bubbling. The propping up of the pound by inflows of dirty banking money has killed off nearly all UK profits outside of finance and other shysters.

Snail · Post by **Snail** » 14 Nov 2018, 16:22

This is very exciting.

Who wants to live in uninteresting times.? Not me!

Lord Beria3 · Post by **Lord Beria3** » 14 Nov 2018, 16:33

I just want a no deal brexit!

Snail · Post by **Snail** » 14 Nov 2018, 16:43

Bah, you want some excitement too. How dull would it have been if corbyn was ousted, hilary clinton usa president, and no eu referendum. Zzzzzzzzzz.

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 14 Nov 2018, 17:12

Lord Beria3 wrote:I just want a no deal brexit!

Me too.

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 14 Nov 2018, 19:25

So, the cabinet have signed up to the draft agreement.

Pigs in troughs.

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 14 Nov 2018, 19:27

It will not get through parliament.