Migrant watch (merged topic)

[Little John]

We have chronic unemployment

I what ways does migration affect the employment rate?

To take one example, we have a chronic shortage of indigenously trained nurses used as an excuse for bringing in overseas trained nurses. All the while it is conveniently omitted to be mentioned that this is because of a shortage of UK training places. For every UK nurse training place that is available, there are 10 UK applicants. This phenomena can be seen mirrored across all of UK industry. The reason for this state of affairs is really simple. By employing overseas trained workers, the training costs are being off-shored to their country of origin. Countries of origin who can ill afford to be training our workers for us. Meanwhile, we have a growing army of UK indigenous workers who are missing out on such training leading to rising unemployment and underemployment. And for those of our indigenous workers who do manage to get in on the employment game, they find their pay and conditions are being driven inexorably down by migrant workers who are prepared to work harder for less and live in overcrowded conditions because it's still better than where they came from.

[kenneal - lagger]

We have chronic unemployment

In what ways does migration affect the employment rate?

1 + 1 = 2
2 + 2 = 3
3 + ..... and wot LJ said

Ask a silly question ..

[biffvernon]

1 + 1 = 2
2 + 2 = 3
3 + ..... and wot LJ said

Ask a silly question ..

That's certainly a silly answer. Do you not have a sensible one?

[UndercoverElephant]

We have chronic unemployment

In what ways does migration affect the employment rate?

If GDP stays the same then immigration must, as a logical consequence, increase the unemployment rate.

If GDP rises then it may not affect the unemployment rate.

I do hope you are not going to repeat your hypocritical and disingenous argument about there being anything good about increasing economic growth. Not after you've been called out on it so many times already.

[kenneal - lagger]

LJ and UE have given you the sensible answers and I have given up trying to convince the unconvinceable.

[Automaton]

Interesting that no-one has reported why the adult posing as a child who stabbed the Swedish social worker did what he did. Of course we could guess.... a man at least 18 yo who has been taught women are there to serve men, being 'looked after' by a lone 22 yo woman.... what could go wrong?

https://www.rt.com/news/332310-sweden-r ... led-adult/

[Automaton]

Another excellent example of the difficulties of integrating migrants with such different cultures (and also an excellent example of how different 'cultures' are really about religion - with reference to the on-going discussion in the news thread about jihad)...

Danish imam urges govt to accept child marriages among refugees :

https://www.rt.com/news/332282-child-br ... -refugees/

[Automaton]

‘Too cold, bad food, tired of waiting’: 1000s of Iraqi refugees cancel plans for Finnish asylum :

https://www.rt.com/news/332331-iraqi-re ... sh-asylum/

So maybe not 'refugees' after all....

[johnhemming2]

We have UASCs who are not children as well. It is a standard ploy to get special treatment on an unjustified basis.

[biffvernon]

Also from Denmark
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/d ... ed-mosque/

Mosques are “male-dominated and patriarchal places, where a man is at the speaking platform, a man leads prayer, a man is in focus and dominant”, says Sherin Khankan, an academic and one of four female imams in Denmark. It is for this reason that she has set up Copenhagen’s first female-led mosque, a “feminist project” designed to facilitate worship “on women’s terms.”

Having come up with the idea more than a year ago, Khankan – who has a Muslim Syrian father and a Christian Finnish mother – is determined to broaden Islam’s appeal to her fellow countrywomen. “I have never felt at home in the existing mosques. The new grand mosques are unbelievably beautiful, but I have the feeling of being a stranger when I am there,” she told Danish newspaper Politiken.

[biffvernon]

[jonny2mad]

Well we took over various countrys but we also had something to give. So for example before European contact Africa didnt have the wheel.

How has importing millions of Muslims since the 1960s improved life for Europeans .

What does their culture add to ours, child rape terrorism gender inequality .

I can't think of one positive thing

[biffvernon]

Curious, and wrong, how our pension system discriminates against people who emigrate.

http://www.theguardian.com/money/2016/f ... s-pensions

[johnhemming2]

It depends upon the country. It is also funded by current taxation. Hence although they have a reasonable case it is something that needs to be costed and the costs have to be taken into account. That's why Caroline Lucas is suggesting partial uprating as there would not be a massive cost increase.

[biffvernon]

One could say that all state pensions are funded out of taxation, but that's a different issue. It is the arbitrariness of the "it depends on the country" that is curious and wrong. One would think those who worry about immigration because out little island is becoming over-crowded would be jumping up and down about this disincentive for the elderly to emigrate.