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18 States Join Texas in Supreme Court Lawsuit Against Michigan, Georgia, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania Over Fraudulent Election

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/1 ... lZcDduKLA4
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Georgia County Can’t Certify Election Results from Recount Because They Can’t “Duplicate Results” on Voting Machines

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/1 ... dhPKoWu4CA
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Do you even know how to engage with actual arguments or evidence? Or, do you simply base your positions entirely on imbecilic, tribalistic, IDPOL considerations?

Can you think for yourself?
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Little John wrote: 10 Dec 2020, 20:26 Do you even know how to engage with actual arguments or evidence? Or, do you simply base your positions entirely on imbecilic, tribalistic, IDPOL considerations?

Can you think for yourself?
We've done the "evidence" and "arguments", you didn't understand them, so now I'm simply pointing out that the people who are influencing your opinions are liars and propagandists.

How can you believe, and (worse) quote the man responsible for this lot:

https://www.mediamatters.org/gateway-pu ... rong#media

To make it worse, you accuse me of being gullible !

Now, if you have any credible sources I'm happy to read them, but if you keep linking to right-wing nut-job conspiracy theorists I'll keep flagging them as such.
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You are a willfully ridiculous ignoramus

The first item is on the official record

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/ ... Tables.pdf

The second item originates from one of Georgia's main news sources

https://www.walb.com/2020/12/08/letter- ... e-recount/
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Little John wrote: 10 Dec 2020, 23:35 You are a willfully ridiculous ignoramus

The first item is on the official record

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/ ... Tables.pdf

The second item originates from one of Georgia's main news sources

https://www.walb.com/2020/12/08/letter- ... e-recount/
You conspiracy guys really are clutching at straws. From the same website you linked to (https://www.walb.com/2020/12/09/secreta ... d-recount/ comes the startling news that the discrepancy was 51 votes, possibly because a batch of 50 was accidentally scanned twice. Machine problems hampered another attempt, and as the original tally was only 1 vote wrong they went with the original.
“State Elections Director Chris Harvey, called Coffee County’s elections director, Misty Martin. Mr. Harvey brought Deputy Director Blake Evans in on the call to discuss the situation. Ms. Martin said that the hand audit showed that they were off by one vote from the original count, but now, following the recount, Coffee County’s tally was off by 51 votes. Further, the county’s tally was showing two batch uploads of 50 ballots each. It became apparent that Ms. Martin was unsure whether she had scanned a batch of 50 ballots twice, which would account for the 50-vote discrepancy (Ms. Martin also noted that Coffee County had comingled their advance voting and Election Day ballots, adding further disorganization to the process). Again, though she could not say for certain that she had scanned the same batch of 50 ballots twice, that seemed a likely possibility,” the press release read.

The SOS said the letter from Coffee County blamed the voting system for the 51-vote discrepancy, however, officials did not specify what mechanical issues they encountered."
This looks pretty insignificant to me, but a google search shows incomplete and misleading references to it all over the nut-job-conspiracy web, implying that Coffee County are bravely making a stand against vote fraud.
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A piece by Eric Coomer who works for Dominion Voting systems regarding the effort to overturn the legitimate election result and install Trump as dictator.
"While the personal attacks that have no basis in fact are disturbing, I am increasingly distressed by the willingness of so many to embrace these lies with such enthusiasm — calling out openly and loudly for the demise, and even death, of a fellow American who is dedicated to upholding the right of every citizen to express their voice at the ballot box. It isn’t right. It must stop."
https://www.denverpost.com/2020/12/08/d ... tion-2020/
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It would seem that ever since LJ started reading Spiked he has been obsessed with nutjob conspiracy theories and no logical arguments will sway him.

For me, the fact that Republican politicians and election officials and Republican leaning judges are throwing out these ludicrous allegations and saying that no actual evidence to back up all the allegations has been put forward is enough for me to discount the allegations as well. If it was only Democrat politicians, election officials and judges saying this there might be a reason to seriously look at the arguments but it is not.

A spoilt brat is jumping up and down throwing a tantrum because he has lost and showing just how unfit he is to be President of the USA and supposed leader of the Free World. His behaviour in many ways makes Hitler and Mussolini look normal. Given more time in office you could see him outdoing both of them for bad behaviour.

Apparently Trump has given the go ahead for five death sentences on federal prisoners to be carried out before he leaves office, something that hasn't happened for many decades, if ever. Spiteful man!!!
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The Supreme court has rejected the Texas lawsuit.
"Texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another state conducts its elections, All other pending motions are dismissed as moot."
Not sure where this leaves Trump he had a Twitter rant last night, I assume he's upset about the pending cases against him.
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2020 ... l-threats/
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careful_eugene wrote: 12 Dec 2020, 11:11......................
Not sure where this leaves Trump he had a Twitter rant last night, I assume he's upset about the pending cases against him.
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2020 ... l-threats/
He can always give himself a pardon but that would be admitting that he has committed criminal acts. Not sure where that would leave him for 2024 if he wants to stand again. It wouldn't look good on the CV going into the election.
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kenneal - lagger wrote: 12 Dec 2020, 12:33
careful_eugene wrote: 12 Dec 2020, 11:11......................
Not sure where this leaves Trump he had a Twitter rant last night, I assume he's upset about the pending cases against him.
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2020 ... l-threats/
He can always give himself a pardon but that would be admitting that he has committed criminal acts. Not sure where that would leave him for 2024 if he wants to stand again. It wouldn't look good on the CV going into the election.
I'm not sure he can pardon himself, and neither are US legal experts. He can pardon his whole family though, so that will probably happen, and if he resigns he can be pardoned by Pence, I think.
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The Democrats have won one of the Senate run off elections, and are on the brink of the second, regaining control of the Senate

Expect the Republicans to call it fraud and a stolen election
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PS_RalphW wrote: 06 Jan 2021, 11:45 The Democrats have won one of the Senate run off elections, and are on the brink of the second, regaining control of the Senate

Expect the Republicans to call it fraud and a stolen election
It was a stolen election. Trump stole it from the GOP with his antics since he lost the Presidential election.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55555074
Supporters of US President Donald Trump have breached the Capitol, where lawmakers have been meeting to confirm President-elect Joe Biden's poll win.
America has completely lost the plot.
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