I predict a riot!!!

[emordnilap]

Now you know why it's called twitter.

[DominicJ]

I personaly didnt see any black rioters in Manchester.
But race is very much a secondary concern.

[DominicJ]

Looks like water cannons and baton rounds will meet the looters tonight.

Better than nothing one supposes, but a wasted opportunity if one really did believe in localism.

[mindscience]

Latest thing I read was that it is now apparently slowly spreading towards Coventry, given its proximity to Birmingham. What happened to the water cannons and army plans? Am I the only one who is missing this in the articles?

I understand the point of the situation not being reflected equally throughout society. But I think this process usually takes time, doesn't - for the classes to 'blend' together. Usually, the middle class is the first to go and then for a long time there is only working class and upper class with a noticeable indiscrepancy in between. Forgive me if I'm wrong on this one.

[Little John]

Latest thing I read was that it is now apparently slowly spreading towards Coventry, given its proximity to Birmingham. What happened to the water cannons and army plans? Am I the only one who is missing this in the articles?

I understand the point of the situation not being reflected equally throughout society. But I think this process usually takes time, doesn't - for the classes to 'blend' together. Usually, the middle class is the first to go and then for a long time there is only working class and upper class with a noticeable indiscrepancy in between. Forgive me if I'm wrong on this one.

Revolutions are usually born on the back of the disenfranchised, educated middle, I think.

The ones at the top don't need to and the ones at the bottom don't have the organisational skills.

The bottom, though, up getting directed/exploited by the middle during a revolution. Someone has to be the cannon fodder after all

I'm just kind of thinking out loud here, so the above analysis may be full of holes.

[emordnilap]

steve

You might enjoy - and possibly have already read - this view from William Bowles.

From the very first night it looked to me as if the police allowed buildings to burn and shops to be looted. Is it just me who got this impression? The media noticed it too but put it down to the police being caught off guard by the scale of it all.

But I’m not convinced. I think that once the state got wind of the scale of the uprising they deliberately allowed things to get out-of-hand before launching a major occupation of those areas of our cities deemed the source of the troubles. A ‘dry run’ if you like for even greater social upheavals to come? After all, the system needs to be tested.

It is inconceivable that local police could not have dealt with roving groups of youth, who never appear to have exceeded more than one hundred in size. An eyewitness reported from Clapham Junction as a department store was being looted that a group of police just stood by and watched.

[UndercoverElephant]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/we-are-the- ... ondon.html

[UndercoverElephant]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-14471921

Iranian press say the UK has been too tough on the rioters, who it portrays as citizens protesting against poor living conditions and police mistreatment.

The Iranian government, usually at the receiving end of criticism for its treatment of demonstrators, was quick to condemn what it said was police brutality against innocent individuals.

Press TV cites Mohammad Karim Abedi, the vice-chairman of the parliamentary committee, as urging London "to order the police to stop treating protesters violently".

Other countries too have been showing what appears to be a touch of schadenfreude.

Libya has used the events as an excuse to call the British government illegitimate and demand it go - an echo of comments made by the UK about Col Muammar Gaddafi's regime.

"[David] Cameron and his government must leave after the popular uprising against them and the violent repression of peaceful demonstrations by police," Libya's Jana news agency quoted Deputy Foreign Minister Khaled Kaaim as saying.

[JavaScriptDonkey]

^^^Funny. Must be great for the Iranians to have the opportunity.

As regards to modern Policing, this is what you have to look forward to.

[Bandidoz]

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Revolutions are usually born on the back of the disenfranchised, educated middle, I think.

The ones at the top don't need to and the ones at the bottom don't have the organisational skills.

The bottom, though, up getting directed/exploited by the middle during a revolution. Someone has to be the cannon fodder after all

100% agreed, and I believe the recent riots have a similar pattern.

[ujoni08]

Some more analysis over on the beeb:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14483149

Jon

[Lord Beria3]

http://www.spectator.co.uk/spectator/th ... dren.thtml

A very good article from somebody who actually knows and talks to the criminals and gang members.

The state education system has much to blame for the rise of the underclass.

[UndercoverElephant]

It is interesting to note that these are English riots. There have been no riots in Scotland or Wales.

[mr brightside]

Don't take my word for it, but i think there might be a riots special Question Time on BBC1@10:35.

That twitter page is disgusting.

[Bandidoz]

http://www.spectator.co.uk/spectator/th ... dren.thtml

A very good article from somebody who actually knows and talks to the criminals and gang members.

The state education system has much to blame for the rise of the underclass.

Great article.