German Military admits Peak Oil

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http://vanrcook.tripod.com/Germanfuelshortage.htm

Just did a google search of Hitler and peak oil and it is striking how little has changed, Germany still imports energy from overseas and a key importer is Russia. When Hitler was around it was Stalin, now it is Putin.
When Germany began to work to produce synthetic fuel, they thought oil reserves around the world were about exhausted. They were 60 or more years early in their assessment of world oil reserves. Now, however, it appears that world oil reserves are declining much more rapidly than new reserves are added and the end of the oil age can be predicted with increasing accuracy.
Appears that WW2 was driven by a false peak oil fear by the Nazi leadership! History still surprises me! :roll:
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Consumer Energy Report - 02/09/10

Leaked Study on Peak Oil Warns of Severe Global Energy Crisis

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An in depth analysis of the study on peak oil by the German military think tank. Definitely worth a read.
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biffvernon wrote:Capital I and capital letters for proper nouns like German and English, please.
And it's "AN English translation." An, not a, before a vowel and an H, please.
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kenneal wrote:
biffvernon wrote:Capital I and capital letters for proper nouns like German and English, please.
And it's "AN English translation." An, not a, before a vowel and an H, please.
LB, I'm afraid I tend to agree with Biff and Ken on this issue.

In future, please spare a thought for the poor sods out here in the ether who are trying to make some sense of your increasingly right-wing posts.
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The Oil Drum now has a review of the report:
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6912
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I'm working on a game that 'simulates' the impacts of peak oil currently there is no option to go to war with other nations, only to adapt each contries power plants before oil runs out..

Would it be more realistic if you could wage war on other countries to gain more oil?

PS. The Alpha version is here -> http://www.SaveTheSillyEarthlings.com
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Arowx wrote:I'm working on a game that 'simulates' the impacts of peak oil currently there is no option to go to war with other nations, only to adapt each contries power plants before oil runs out..

Would it be more realistic if you could wage war on other countries to gain more oil?

PS. The Alpha version is here -> http://www.SaveTheSillyEarthlings.com
Er, yes. Isn't that what is happening?
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Heard of the Iraq war? :lol:

What kind of game is it which ignores war! I suggest a option that includes creating a pandemic which kills of the bulk of humanity.

Opps, already done... :wink:

http://www.funny-games.biz/pandemicgame.html
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It's a humanitarian game, one where you are attempting to save a species from self induced extinction.

Lot's of games exclude war, direct conflict where pieces are permanently removed from the game, the games tend to have victory conditions or a race condition.

I tried adapting the rules of risk so that oil reserves were only generated in certain countries and oil was needed to create armies, but that just becomes a no-win game, we all lose eventually if we fight over fewer and fewer resources.

It's also a great way to see why the Iraq war happened. ;o)
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Lord Beria3 wrote:Heard of the Iraq war? :lol:

What kind of game is it which ignores war! I suggest a option that includes creating a pandemic which kills of the bulk of humanity.

Opps, already done... :wink:

http://www.funny-games.biz/pandemicgame.html
Is that rather than the "b" option or the "c" option?
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mobbsey wrote:The Oil Drum now has a review of the report:
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6912
I thought this was a good bit:
"Investment will decline and debt service will be challenged, leading to a crash in financial markets, accompanied by a loss of trust in currencies and a break-up of value and supply chains – because trade is no longer possible. This would in turn lead to the collapse of economies, mass unemployment, government defaults and infrastructure breakdowns, ultimately followed by famines and total system collapse"
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I think that just about sums it up Biff.

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Further analysis of the recent German military report:

http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=7460.6038.0.0
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