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Hydro up the DODGY TAX AVOIDERS
Posted: 02 Jun 2011, 22:21
by biffvernon
Posted: 03 Jun 2011, 08:57
by An Inspector Calls
"the energy generated by the dam for the next 50 years, at an average of 4419 MW, is 1.14 bboe (billion barrels of oil equivalent). This is approximately 9% of the proven oil reserves of Brazil (12.6 bbl), or 2% of the total oil reserves of Russia (60 bbl), or 5.5% of the proven oil reserves of the U.S (21 bbl). The environmental consequence of energy generated by the dam is much less carbon-dioxide than if the same energy were produced by oil or thermo-electricals. In addition, the electricity currently generated to power cities and plants in the DODGY TAX AVOIDERS region come from dirty and unreliable sources such as thermo-electricals (using wood, coal or oil to produce energy)"
Posted: 03 Jun 2011, 09:11
by 2 As and a B
Posted: 03 Jun 2011, 10:16
by An Inspector Calls
"the energy generated by the dam for the next 50 years, at an average of 4419 MW, is 1.14 bboe (billion barrels of oil equivalent). This is approximately 9% of the proven oil reserves of Brazil (12.6 bbl), or 2% of the total oil reserves of Russia (60 bbl), or 5.5% of the proven oil reserves of the U.S (21 bbl). The environmental consequence of energy generated by the dam is much less carbon-dioxide than if the same energy were produced by oil or thermo-electricals. In addition, the electricity currently generated to power cities and plants in the DODGY TAX AVOIDERS region come from dirty and unreliable sources such as thermo-electricals (using wood, coal or oil to produce energy)"
Can't make an omelette without breaking eggs.
Posted: 03 Jun 2011, 10:33
by clv101
An Inspector Calls wrote:"the energy generated by the dam for the next 50 years, at an average of 4419 MW, is 1.14 bboe (billion barrels of oil equivalent)....
A MW electrical is not the same as a MW thermal from burning oil! The BP Review use a 39% thermal to electrical conversion efficiency, so when making comparisons against oil, it's ~2.5x better than that. Around a quarter of Brazil's oil... from an energy generation per unit CO2 point of view, it's a no-brainer from a global perspective. There'll be less 'global average' impact from this hydro scheme than the same energy from oil.
However from the locals point of view, it's a no-brainer in the opposite direction as all the (admittedly smaller) total impact will be concentrated in their 400,000 hectare backyard rather than distributed globally.
It is not a straightforward decision.
Posted: 03 Jun 2011, 11:37
by goslow
Yep, unlike our UK NIMBY's, a lot of these indigenous folk don't even use grid electricity (????) so its all for someone else's benefit. I suppose its not possible to compensate them for their loss of land in a way that is really meaningful.