Moderator: Peak Moderation
Ah, okay, that must be to do with the: "generally taken to be those quantities that geological and engineering information indicates with reasonable certainty can be recovered in the future from known deposits under existing economic and operating conditions". I guess the coal at the bottom of the deep mines that have been closed are not reasonably recoverable under today?s economic and operating conditions.Totally_Baffled wrote:The 1.5billion tonnes figure came from the 2004 BP stats review. For some reason this was revised down to 220 million tonnes in 2005!!
clv101 wrote:Ah, okay, that must be to do with the: "generally taken to be those quantities that geological and engineering information indicates with reasonable certainty can be recovered in the future from known deposits under existing economic and operating conditions". I guess the coal at the bottom of the deep mines that have been closed are not reasonably recoverable under today?s economic and operating conditions.Totally_Baffled wrote: The 1.5billion tonnes figure came from the 2004 BP stats review. For some reason this was revised down to 220 million tonnes in 2005!!
As I understand it though reopening a deep mine is a very difficult thing to do, harder than starting from scratch... and it's not as if the Nintendo generation want to go down a mine! I wonder what the economic and operating conditions would have to look like for those reserves to increase back to 1500 million tonnes?
Yes, indeed a fine observation on your behalf, Totally Baffled - shit - burns extraordinarily well, once dried that isTotally_Baffled wrote:
So in summary.
UK: =
No coal
No gas
No oil
No Wood
Nothing to burn.......
Shit.....
He added: "I would suggest that the reopening of the coalfields and associated clean coal technology in power stations will produce electricity far cheaper than anything else that is currently being considered."
Mr Lavery's comments come as the price of wholesale gas has almost doubled during the past week, prompting fears about winter supplies to industry in the UK
Eternal Sunshine wrote: I wouldn't want to worry you with the truth.
Yeh, but they haven't got TV's , PC's, DVD's, and iShite's to run. When you can get 240V 60Hz out of a cow's arse, please let me know.genoxy wrote wrote:
In fact the shepherds in my homeland have been burning cattle shit (goats, sheep) for thousands of years to keep themselves warm during cold nights in the desert (could go to even sub-zero).
A waste of good shit Genoxy.I've written a letter about this to my local MP (George Galloway - yes I live in Tower Hamlets, lucky me!), explaining PO and providing a sample of deluxe, grade A, dried, goats shit, in the envelope Very Happy
Should have sent him some shite! I think you are right quintus, as the price rises the reserve number goes up.Quintus wrote:Doesn't 'proven recoverable reserves' refer to what would be economcally viable to recover? If the oil price shot up - or if coal import prices shot up - the reported reserves would probably dramatically rise (ignoring any carbon taxes).
As I understand it UK proven coal reserves were reported as being c.45 bn tons in 1980 and 0.22 bn tons in 2004! (don't quote me on those figs, though I'll try to dig out the sources if requested).
