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Here is a guy with a sole economic perspective

Posted: 29 Jun 2005, 19:25
by MacG
Here is the economic equivalent to Matt Savinar. Not even considering PO, he belive the house of cards will come down on its own:

http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/e ... lapse.html

Edit: Sorry all! This particular one seem to be someone with a tinfoil hat who distort things. Didn't check thouroughly before posting. Sorry again.

Posted: 29 Jun 2005, 21:17
by murpen
See Ron Insana/Julian Robertson vs Al Martin/Julian Robertson.

I've not had a chance to watch the videos yet but apparently there's some controversy over the reporting of comments by Julian Robertson on CNBC.

Re: Here is a guy with a sole economic perspective

Posted: 30 Jun 2005, 06:37
by isenhand
MacG wrote:he belive the house of cards will come down on its own:
Sadly, there is nothing new in that. The econ-social system we have has been dieing for ages even without PO. There are rules of nature that you can only disobey for so long, the nature gets you!

Posted: 15 Jul 2005, 11:11
by GD
That is truly scary reading, we can only hope there's a few years left before it happens in order to prepare and get community currency going :!:

Btw, MacG (or anyone else) have you seen the stuff on this page:
http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/freeenergy.html
If so, what do you think?

Posted: 15 Jul 2005, 12:04
by SherryMayo
GD wrote: Btw, MacG (or anyone else) have you seen the stuff on this page:
http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/freeenergy.html
If so, what do you think?
I think most of the things on this page are right up there with abiotic oil and perpetual motion machines. Remember the laws of thermodynamics (You can't win; you can't break even; you can't get out of the game). All that energy has to come from somewhere.

If it looks too good to be true, then it probably is.

Posted: 15 Jul 2005, 14:51
by GD
There?s some controversy alright? Like all that Bushonian-cabal stuff was made up entirely by Al Martin, whose website is a pay for subscription to read about the ?criminal government conspiracy??.

I?ve Just watched the video. The latter half of part 2 is the only section, that talks about finance bubbles and inflation, and it goes roughly like this:

Ron: ?What do you see that exites or disturbs you in the investment arena??

JR: "Well, to be perfectly frank, Ron, I am probably more disturbed than I have ever been in my investment life about what lies ahead. The American consumer has been the engine that has driven the world - and is out of gas. The American consumer is also involved in a housing bubble that puts his very dwelling at risk. And it really worries me what lies ahead because I really don?t see any easy way out.?

Ron: ?When you say there is no ?easy way out?, what do you think is Ultimate resolution to what you just described??

JR: ?I don't know, I think that there will be an effort made to I think inflate our way out, and I think that effort is being made, has been made, and I think that?s why the dollar has weakened so much against other currencies. But we could have a soft landing, the Japanese stock market went from almost 40,000 in 1990 to around 7000 back to around 11000 now, and it did all that while the rest, well, our market probably was up 5 or 6 times and yet there was no hard landing in Japan, Japan continued to move along fairly well.?

The conversation moves on to his training of younger hedge fund managers, and then ends.


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Made up comments, free energy technology? I think whenever I see ?Silver bear caf?? from now on I?m going to treat with serious caution.

Posted: 15 Jul 2005, 17:40
by Guest
In Julian Robertson's prediction he talks of the Bush-Cheney regime and how its motive is to produce a dictatorship in order to control future riots over food and wealth. Interestingly it made me think of something I read on Wikipedia about Guantanamo Bay. If you look up GB on Wiki', http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_bay ,you'll see it mentions that Haliburton announced on 16th June 2005 that it has the contract to build a new detention facility and extend the perimiter fencing. This has me wondering - why? Are they planning to take in more prisoners; from home or in more foreign wars? This article suggests that overall the Haliburton contract will be worth over $500 miilion if all is built.

Oh, the end is nigh!

Posted: 15 Jul 2005, 17:41
by Guest
Sorry, I forgot to post the second article. Here it is

http://helpbootbush.blogspot.com/2005/0 ... 0-mil.html

Posted: 17 Jul 2005, 00:04
by GD
mrkinnies wrote:In Julian Robertson's prediction he talks of the Bush-Cheney regime and how its motive is to produce a dictatorship in order to control future riots over food and wealth. Interestingly it made me think of something I read on Wikipedia about Guantanamo Bay. If you look up GB on Wiki', http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_bay ,you'll see it mentions that Haliburton announced on 16th June 2005 that it has the contract to build a new detention facility and extend the perimiter fencing. This has me wondering - why? Are they planning to take in more prisoners; from home or in more foreign wars? This article suggests that overall the Haliburton contract will be worth over $500 miilion if all is built.

Oh, the end is nigh!
Julian Roberts said no such thing. Those comments are a pure fabrication. Don't waste your time with them.

Btw, that extra gitmo accomodation is for only an extra 220 prisoners. Just part of the "over the top $$$" to the old buddies for helping the "war on terror". Sad, but hardly something to lock up 50m p--d off americans.