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How will oil depletion affect the way we live? What will the economic impact be? How will agriculture change? Will we thrive or merely survive?

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biffvernon wrote:National Parks won't be fracked: http://biffvernon.blogspot.co.uk/2015/1 ... acked.html
Well not for now perhaps. In a decade or so when fuel gets scarce they will conveniently change the rules, just wait and see.
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In another decade global warming's destruction will be so obvious there won't be any searching for more fossil carbon.
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biffvernon wrote:In another decade global warming's destruction will be so obvious there won't be any searching for more fossil carbon.
What destruction do you expect up to 2030 say (other than lots of storms etc)?
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Lots of storms are an essential feature of global warming. You can't exclude them. Last week parts of England recorded their highest ever rainfall event. it caused, according to PricewaterhouseCoopers, about £500,000,000 worth of destruction. We don't have to look into the future.
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biffvernon wrote:Lots of storms are an essential feature of global warming. You can't exclude them. Last week parts of England recorded their highest ever rainfall event. it caused, according to PricewaterhouseCoopers, about £500,000,000 worth of destruction. We don't have to look into the future.
That PWC stuff would be a good link to have, Biff, please.

When the 1% are taking CC seriously, surely something has to happen?
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emordnilap wrote: That PWC stuff would be a good link to have, Biff, please.
Tim Farron, Lib Dem leader and MP for Westmorland and Lonsdale, told the debate that the Government’s support of £50 million to help households and businesses affected by recent floods is welcome, but “clearly nowhere near enough”.

Tim Farron called on the Tory administration to provide “additional support for Cumbria, for health and social services, to support mental health provision, counselling for people in desperate, desperate need”.

He told MPs that PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) had calculated that the cost of the floods to Cumbria was £500 million.

He added: “It’s vital this Government commits to the £500 million that PwC has identified so that we can rebuild our communities, support our damaged people and communities, get people back in their homes and do so quickly.”

Climate change he argued was clearly not an esoteric matter, with the impact of the recent floods in Cumbria and other places a “very real one”.
http://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/mp-ca ... -1.1231868

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015 ... mated-500m

http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/62 ... UK-weather
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http://www.scotsman.com/news/scientists ... -1-3982752

High levels of selenium in Bowland Shale rocks.

Just another reason why we should be wary of fracking, as fracking pumps millions of gallons of water into a well, then pump it out again, before disposing of it, either down another old well (or nearest stream if no-one is looking :twisted: ) or trucked off by a sub-sub-sub contractor who 'takes care ' of it.

(of course, all gas and oil wells bring up water, but fracked wells bring up more).
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Plans to drill 68 new shale gas wells in England unveiled
The Government yesterday awarded rights to energy companies to explore for oil and gas across about 5,000 square miles of England, in addition to 1,000 square miles they awarded in the summer.
Of the 6,000 square miles total, roughly 75 per cent of the licences relate to shale exploration, the Government’s Oil & Gas Authority said, with the remainder being earmarked for other types of drilling.
Includes the North Yorkshire moors. Lovely. And ah yes, COP21...

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http://www.theguardian.com/environment/ ... n-cheshire

Bailiffs move in on anti fracking camp .

Driller has until May to start drilling or lose lease.
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BBC: BHP Billiton writes down $7.2 billion in shale "assets"
BHP's latest move means it has written down nearly two-thirds of its investment in US shale
They will probably have further "write-downs" in their shale operations...
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-me ... e-35387343

Police cost for evicting 12 protestors, £200,000, 175 officers, 6 days.
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PS_RalphW wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-me ... e-35387343

Police cost for evicting 12 protestors, £200,000, 175 officers, 6 days.
IGas told the BBC: "The protesters were on the site illegally."

Interesting lie there. I thought trespass was a civil offence, unless it is regulated with a byelaw or such.
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Reuters: North Dakota oil co suspends fracking; shares jump
Denver-based Whiting said it will stop fracking and completing wells as of April 1. Most of its $500 million budget will be spent to mothball drilling and fracking operations in the first half of the year. After June, Whiting said it plans to spend only $160 million, mostly on maintenance.
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