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How will oil depletion affect the way we live? What will the economic impact be? How will agriculture change? Will we thrive or merely survive?

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PR problems continue. From today's Private Eye there was a problem when Cuadrilla wanted to drill in Sussex. Greenpeace was recording a conversation with the PR rep. He admitted Cuadrilla had analysed the price figures which showed any savings would be insignificant. The rep claimed there would be no problem with seismicity, gas leakage or water contamination then said
everything I say say sounds like utter fukkyn bullshit".
Refreshing to have some honesty in the debate.
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Is he still in his job?
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He should take a lesson from the CEO of McDonalds, who stated in public that they "Don't sell fast food." :lol:
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emordnilap wrote:He should take a lesson from the CEO of McDonalds, who stated in public that they "Don't sell fast food." :lol:
Fair statement, it takes months to grow a potato, and at least as many to grow an animal for burgers.
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I would guess that the inference was that they sell fast "something other than food" which I would agree with whole heartedly!
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
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The mainstream media report what we all knew: Government and fracking industry are one.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 07589.html
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biffvernon wrote:The mainstream media report what we all knew: Government and fracking industry are one.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 07589.html
I never thought we'd be on the same side as the nuke industry :shock:
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We should just tell the nukesters "no thanks, we'll use that Shale stuff" and the shale lot "actually, we've got nukes, thanks".
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Osborne's biggest crime so far

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013 ... nvironment
This new tax regime, which I want to make the most generous for shale in the world...
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biffvernon wrote:Osborne's biggest crime so far

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013 ... nvironment
This new tax regime, which I want to make the most generous for shale in the world...
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It just reflects the extra costs attached to shale gas over NS gas. We really are scraping the barrel with this. It's a last ditch, desperate attempt to keep UK out of the mire.

Oil's going up as well - $108.20 at the moment.
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kenneal - lagger wrote:It just reflects the extra costs attached to shale gas over NS gas. We really are scraping the barrel with this. It's a last ditch, desperate attempt to keep UK out of the mire.

Oil's going up as well - $108.20 at the moment.
Could this be the end of the beginning?
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No. WTI is just returning to it's normal price of near parity with Brent. US oil stocks are falling sharply due to local supply issues in Canada, but total stocks are still quite healthy as yet, and the WTI price has only limited impact on the US economy, and none at all elsewhere.

Brent is $109, just $2 below the average price the last 3 years.
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I mean sort of generally, like, things.
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