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Pip Tiddlepip wrote:Having been born right at the end of the Swinging Sixties (literally...in December 1969)
Andy Hunt wrote:I was born in March 1970 so a very similar vintage to yourself!
Ha! -- I was conceived in the 'Summer of Love' (even though my parents weren't hippies).

The problem with nostalgia is that it's not as good as it used to be. :wink:
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oh dear, It appears this really is the place for late 30's paranoics...

(Feb 1970 vintage myself).
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Not only do i remember TVs with wooden casings, I remember when we actually had to get up off our arses when we wanted to change the channel! Not that you had to do it all that often, with only three channels to choose from. No videos, no DVDs.
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How about actually waiting for something to come on the TV.
Sundays, with only the black and white test card to look at whilst you waited for the afternoon film.
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bakerlite (what was that?)
Bakelite was sawdust bonded by a phenolic (coal origin?) resin.

I made some of the resin when I was about 14 ... and it exploded! I had a non-healing phenol burn on my forehead for MONTHS.

More interestingly was that just before mass produced plastics appeared, wood flour products were making an appearance.

If you take wood flour, compress it and simply heat it, it becomes a solid material because its own resins bond the material.

Take a look at hard board: the rough patterned side is where wood paste or similar has been laid on a wire mesh. The hard shiny side is where a hot plate or roller has fused the surface.

We could make all sorts of solid 3D objects using this technique - but sadly the materials aren't water proof.
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You bunch of old farts!!!

:twisted: :P :P :P :P :D

80's kid me... though I think I've experienced the summer of '76 despite the fact that I was but a mere foetus at the time. My mum just went ON and ON about how hard it was to be pregnant with me that year.

Until '83, we used to live in a WW2 prefab (built near a miltary test facility) with no central heating, and just a single open fireplace. Despite some very snowy winters, I can never remember being that cold.
Who needs all this heating when mum just used to put loads of layers on you!!!
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I'm a 1978 vintage myself, so does this mean that I am prematurely paranoid? Oh I can't wait to see me in my late thirties if I'm like this in my late twenties... :shock: I was raised by hippies, and from memory remember a childhood where winters were spent in lots of jumpers, even in bed. We had some cracking snowfalls back then.... sigh....
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I arrived in the summer of 1963, good thread, nice to get away from the doom. I arrived in the summer of 1963 so I can remember all the stuff mentioned, I grew up in the country in a house without central heating or mains drainage with open fires and a stove, a good garden with a big veg patch, as kids (youngest of 3) we were always off out in the countryside climbing trees bike rideing, go carts made from pram wheels and pallets, jumpers for goal post's etc. we had no TV until the late 60's

What always strikes me is how quickly things have changed and how soon many have forgotten the way we were. I think change was fairly gradual up til about 1985 ish then the 1st pc's began to appear and giant mobile phones oh and electric windows in cars (what was so difficult about winding a handle?) followed by CD players and retail park's...oh the list go's on. We call it progress, I preferred the 60's lifestlye, and NO I'm not looking back through rose tinted spec's, Yes life was harder but guess what? it turns out that for me at least less (was) is more :wink:
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OOP's I repeated myself at the start of my above post, sorry I was distracted sorting seeds, ho hum back off up ta garden,gettin in some late spuds for christmas crop and the last of the carrots and lettus, :lol:
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SunnyJim wrote:Do you remember when all TV's had wooden casings? Car dashboards were wood. In fact plastic hadn't yet found its way into our lives! Everything was china, glass, tin, wood, rubber or bakerlite (what was that?)
Bakelite - the first synthetic plastic!
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...most commonly used for making telephones... or anything that needed to be moulded into a hard rigid shape. Still in wide use today. If your car has a distributor, take a look a the rotor arm.
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Great thread! I "arrived" in April 1969, so I can pretty much identify with all this nostalgia. Fantastic memories (OK, perhaps selective memories too, but what the hell).
Silas wrote:...as kids (youngest of 3) we were always off out in the countryside climbing trees bike rideing, go carts made from pram wheels and pallets, jumpers for goal post's etc.
Yeah those were the days! Any kids who lived anywhere slightly rural generally did all those things. We had very few toys and no gadgets - but we were never bored it seems.
Silas wrote:What always strikes me is how quickly things have changed and how soon many have forgotten the way we were. I think change was fairly gradual up til about 1985 ish then the 1st pc's began to appear and giant mobile phones oh and electric windows in cars (what was so difficult about winding a handle?) followed by CD players and retail park's...oh the list go's on.
I think the slippery slope began when Tomy began to sell the electronic game called Blip:
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It was this wow-wee space age electronic tennis game that many kids had back in the very late 70's (or was it early 80s?) in which the "ball" was a little red light bulb which moved about mechanically behind a darkened screen. From then on I guess, home computer gaming (as opposed to arcade games) took off and kids stopped doing anything else, stopped interacting with each other in fact!
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Silas wrote:I arrived in the summer of 1963, good thread, nice to get away from the doom. I arrived in the summer of 1963 so I can remember all the stuff mentioned,
Just a bit too young to remember some of the exceptionally cold, snowy winters we had during the early sixties, when you could build a snowman in the back garden and it would still be there three months later...
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Erik wrote: ...space age electronic tennis game that many kids had back in the very late 70's (or was it early 80s?) in which the "ball" was a little red light bulb which moved about mechanically behind a darkened screen. From then on I guess, home computer gaming (as opposed to arcade games) took off and kids stopped doing anything else, stopped interacting with each other in fact!
Oh come on, that's media-propagated bullshit!

I was born in 83, so I was a kid in the late 80's and early 90's - well into the 'gaming' age. Sure, I had a zx spectrum, and later on a sega Megadrive. I also has a series of BMX's and mountain bikes I'd spend half the summer out on with my mates (with no cycle helmets). I played in fields, went exploring all day (only to return for meals, usually caked in mud) and stayed out after dark without fear of paedophilic rape. I had 'dens', invented games, and spent many an evening playing football in the local park with jumpers for goalposts.

If most of you 30-40+ year olds think all of that was gone by the time I was growing up, and kids spent all their time inside staring at a screen, then that's a false perception you've picked up.

And if you've been well enough mislead to think that those following you by a decade or so were brought up as social recluses (save for school), then there's every reason to believe the majority of kids STILL do most of these things, and now we're ALL being mislead by a scaremongering media.
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Andy_K wrote:
Erik wrote: ...space age electronic tennis game that many kids had back in the very late 70's (or was it early 80s?) in which the "ball" was a little red light bulb which moved about mechanically behind a darkened screen. From then on I guess, home computer gaming (as opposed to arcade games) took off and kids stopped doing anything else, stopped interacting with each other in fact!
Oh come on, that's media-propagated bullshit!

I was born in 83, so I was a kid in the late 80's and early 90's - well into the 'gaming' age. Sure, I had a zx spectrum, and later on a sega Megadrive. I also has a series of BMX's and mountain bikes I'd spend half the summer out on with my mates (with no cycle helmets). I played in fields, went exploring all day (only to return for meals, usually caked in mud) and stayed out after dark without fear of paedophilic rape. I had 'dens', invented games, and spent many an evening playing football in the local park with jumpers for goalposts.

If most of you 30-40+ year olds think all of that was gone by the time I was growing up, and kids spent all their time inside staring at a screen, then that's a false perception you've picked up.

And if you've been well enough mislead to think that those following you by a decade or so were brought up as social recluses (save for school), then there's every reason to believe the majority of kids STILL do most of these things, and now we're ALL being mislead by a scaremongering media.
Phew, that's a relief, all is OK with the UK youth then!

OK, I admit my post was a tad exaggerated - I should have stopped with BLIP (anyone else remember BLIP? :) ) - but I do think that 30 years ago kids had to get by with a lot less and were as a rule more creative about how they kept themselves entertained. This cultural change didn't happen overnight, but it has happened. Go to a child's birthday party nowadays and you'll see a huge pile of junky plastic presents (most of which will be broken before the end of the day) that they've received from all the other kids via their competitive parents. But when I was a kid we were lucky to receive a bag of sweets and a book and a slap on the back to say "well done for growing another year". Mind you, I did live in a shoe box... :wink:
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Silas, you just missed the last real winter by being born in the summer of 63. Being born in 1949, I was at just the right age to enjoy snow that started falling, in London anyway, on Boxing Day evening and lasted until April. The nearest I can remember to that was the two weeks of snow we had in 1982. I don't think we have had two days of snow since then in the south, Hampshire/Berkshire.

I also remember travelling to school through the "Great Smog" in London for a week in the early 60's. It was quicker to walk from North Finchley to Willesden Green in the evening dark than get the trolley bus because everything on the roads was so slow. Even the train from Willesden to Wembley was slow, but quicker than walking.

The last two summers have reverted to the true British summers of my school days: hot sunny June and early July and exams at school, followed by breaking up for the summer holidays and six weeks of rain in July/August, leading into a sunny September when we went back to school again. There was no justice in those days.

I also remember our first autumn on the farm in 1983, when we were living in a 14 foot caravan. In the November we had a couple of weeks of nights with temperatures of minus 14 C. We would wake up with ice on the inside of the caravan and the duvet would be stuck in it. During the day the sun was out and it would be in the 20's. The next year was similar, but less extreme, but we were then in the mobile home with a lovely woodburning stove for warmth.

I do miss the hot sunny summers of the late 90s early 2000's though. And the Solar weather people are predicting about 15 years of colder weather through the next two sun spot cycles. Bummer!!

I remember ration books and little square bottles of rationed orange juice: school milk in bottles at first and then cartons: summer holidays with grandparents in South Wales with a hot bath in front of a coal fire in the living room: jam tarts cooked on an open range with condensed milk on top: salty Welsh butter sold from a tea chest lined with greaseproof paper and bashed into shape with butter hands: Lubbly Jubbly orange drink in a tetra pack but frozen like an ice lolly but bigger and better and cheaper: Meccano and Hornby Double-O toy trains: and building a Sinclair hifi amp, which I found recently and still have.
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Kenneal, My mum tells me that the winter of 63 was particularly harsh, I do remember We had some cold frosty ones during the 70's, and it snowed regularly, I seemed to spend most of my winter walks in my snorlke coat sliding on ice sheets (polished by a succession of kids feet) to school in the 70's. September was always a cool sunny misty period. Also I was 13 in the summer of 76 wow.

Andy K, well said apsolutely kids will be kids, I think its fair to say that there is currently so much entertainment media for kids that it washes over them, my toddler has loads of stuff but often has just as much fun playing pretend when he discovers an empty card board box, I think it's in our soul to get out and play, modern society try's to crush that instinct but never will!


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kenneal wrote:... I don't think we have had two days of snow since then in the south, Hampshire/Berkshire....
Winter 1990/91 was cold in London. Three weeks of inches-thick snow and ice cover.
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