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Not one for vegetarians...

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Credit crunch sees Bath chaps, ox cheek and pigs trotters return
Ration-book era cuts of meat are making a comeback, with old favourites such as bath chaps, ox cheeks and pigs trotters going on sale in a leading supermarket from next week.

These cheap cuts of meat used to be a regular staple in butchers' windows but have not been sold in quantity since rationing ended in the 1950s.
Well if we're going to eat meat, we should at least make the most of each and every little bit... yum yum.

Sheep brains/eyeballs for supper anyone?
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I've been veggie for about 12 years, but my daughters are not. In fact, my four year old is fascinated by blood and gore. Anything dead, in fact. Pictures that make my five year old turn green she laps up. Makes me nervous...

(Not that I am in the habit of showing pictures of gore to my kids, I don't hide the reality of flesh from them when we encounter it together)

Not sure why I'm posting this...


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Time to run out and buy a slow cooker I trow. Or put one on your crimbo list! Bung in rough meat, root veg and undrinkable wine/beer/cider, switch on, go to work all day, come home, instant delicious hot nosh!

When I was a student I used to use beer etc that other people had left! Didn't do me any harm...
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I used to use a slow cooker but found it made everything too watery for my taste.

However, I've got a pressure cooker sitting by that I need to learn to use.

And I'm sure my collection of HFW books will give me some ideas on using those less palatable cuts!
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RenewableCandy wrote:Time to run out and buy a slow cooker I trow. Or put one on your crimbo list! Bung in rough meat, root veg and undrinkable wine/beer/cider, switch on, go to work all day, come home, instant delicious hot nosh!

When I was a student I used to use beer etc that other people had left! Didn't do me any harm...
Slow cookers require relativly little electricity, and can be worked of a reasonable sized inverter and battery, or a UPS.

I would advise against the use of a slow cooker if rota power cuts threaten, if without power for a few hours, the food would become lukewarm and possibly unsafe since bacteria flourish at such temperatures.
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Sheep brains/eyeballs for supper anyone?
Nah, I don't want a BigMac. Thanks anyway.
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Big Mac, ha ha ha! Now that also gives a meaning to 'animal derivatives' . . .

We have a slow cooker I picked up from a boot sale for a quid(honestly), a few years ago. Dates back to the 1980s and still works a treat!! But in those days things were built to last. In a future possibility of rolling blackouts then an inverter/battery is a good idea - or portable solar generator.
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What about a homemade and free hot box? Really simple to make. I made mine out of cardboard, rock wool, alu foil and some of the kids old woolen jumpers. Works a treat!
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Here's the type of Slow-Cooker you need to cope with rolling power cuts etc - thermos slow cooker. I found out about it from a post on powerswitch! - Andy Hunt has just bought one.

Actaully here's the Powerswitch thread. It looks like a great piece of kit.
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Erik wrote: Well if we're going to eat meat, we should at least make the most of each and every little bit... yum yum.
Fully agree!

A friend once told me they like meat but admitted to having some secret rules:

1. Meat must never look like it was ever an animal: so they eat fishfingers, sausages, chicken slices, paste etc but never chicken legs or fresh fish (especially if it still has its head on).

2. They could never eat entrails and internal organs (offal) or snails as that would be too "yucky".

3. "Cute" animals are out (e.g. rabbits, hares, deer and duck).

:roll:

I respect anyone who is a vegan or doesn't eat meat but if you do eat meat the above sort of (I suspect quite common) rules seem to me pathetic and maybe even immoral.

1. If you eat meat you should, in theory, be up to killing the animal yourself; be prepared to face the consequences of your actions! You are not morally superior for getting someone else to do it for you.

2. Being fussy and not eating certain parts is a luxury not enjoyed by much of the world throughout history. A waste of food, the dead animal won't thank you. Not admirable at all. Try liver after soaking overnight in a good marinade - with onions and mash, delicous! :D

3. I fail to see the justification for eating pigs (an intelligent animal) but not eating a "cute" rabbit, kangaroo, squirrel or a "yucky" snail.

Personally I favour local food, eating less meat but appreciating it more, and free-range.
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Erik wrote:Credit crunch sees Bath chaps, ox cheek and pigs trotters return
Sheep brains/eyeballs for supper anyone?
Nothing wrong with Ox cheek. Makes a nice sandwich with Branston pickle. Pigs trotter I've eaten here in Spain. Delicious if prepared properly. Requires extensive preparation and slow cooking with lots of bay leaf.

Sheep brains I've never tried, but according to my Dad they were a regular breakfast item served on toast on the Somerset farm he was evacuated to during WW2. Apparently very nutritious, high essential fatty acids and protein, but don't taste of much.

Sheeps eyeballs are one of the few things I cant eat. I was served them many years ago by a Palestinian farmer. Very tough and chewy, but most offputting is the way they squirt into your mouth when you bite into them. I seem to have an aversion to food that squirts.( I did my best to choke one down so as not to offend my host!) Rather tasteless, and nothing much to recommend them as a gourmet experience. The barbecued lamb chops that came with them were utterly delicious.

Bath chaps? Public school boys or comprehensive?
No idea!

Edit post googling
actually, that looks rather good.
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Ben wrote:
Erik wrote: Well if we're going to eat meat, we should at least make the most of each and every little bit... yum yum.
Fully agree!

A friend once told me they like meat but admitted to having some secret rules:

1. Meat must never look like it was ever an animal: so they eat fishfingers, sausages, chicken slices, paste etc but never chicken legs or fresh fish (especially if it still has its head on).

2. They could never eat entrails and internal organs (offal) or snails as that would be too "yucky".

3. "Cute" animals are out (e.g. rabbits, hares, deer and duck).

:roll:

I respect anyone who is a vegan or doesn't eat meat but if you do eat meat the above sort of (I suspect quite common) rules seem to me pathetic and maybe even immoral.

1. If you eat meat you should, in theory, be up to killing the animal yourself; be prepared to face the consequences of your actions! You are not morally superior for getting someone else to do it for you.

2. Being fussy and not eating certain parts is a luxury not enjoyed by much of the world throughout history. A waste of food, the dead animal won't thank you. Not admirable at all. Try liver after soaking overnight in a good marinade - with onions and mash, delicous! :D

3. I fail to see the justification for eating pigs (an intelligent animal) but not eating a "cute" rabbit, kangaroo, squirrel or a "yucky" snail.

Personally I favour local food, eating less meat but appreciating it more, and free-range.
Good post, Ben - praise from a vegan! It's always been my way of thinking: that most ('westernised')people are mentally and physically cut off from the process of producing what they eat and are hypocrites every one of them.

As for 'animal lovers' who are not vegan...
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Ben wrote: 1. Meat must never look like it was ever an animal: so they eat fishfingers, sausages, chicken slices, paste etc but never chicken legs or fresh fish (especially if it still has its head on).

2. They could never eat entrails and internal organs (offal) or snails as that would be too "yucky".
Try asking your rather silly friends what they they think sausage skins are.
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I've never understood what vegetarian sausages were all about. A sausage is a way of making meat offcuts cookable :?
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3. "Cute" animals are out (e.g. rabbits, hares, deer and duck).
I like reindeer ... as a dish ... but most people in the UK think reindeer live with Father Christmas ... soppy gits.
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