energycity wrote:Keeping in mind that England could not feed itself without imports (there are 9 million too many of us apparently) perhaps the English will be included in the hoards of refugees from poverty stricken countries trying to enter France. France is over twice the size and has a higher proportion of quality agricultural land.
Half my friends have got homes there already.
So do a few of my friends, but their income bases are here in the UK, and they are not making much of an attempt to integrate. They are there for the wrong reasons, and are going to find themselves seriously out of pocket in short order.
I tend to think that the majority of what FC thinks is going to happen in his 'optomistic' scenario is going to become the uncomfortable reality for most people.
Unless you have of course seen it coming and got as well sorted as possible, but it won't be fun either way.
2012 is only 4 years away. I think it will be a mind-bogging year - paradigm shifting. I think the world will have sunk into big problems by then. Hopefully we will not have had major war, but I wouldn't rule it out. We will probably have sunk from recession into depression by then. Food, shelter and personal safety will be the main issues we worry about. Unemployment will be at very high levels and the resulting chaos this will unleash will be one of the main problems. I fear that a lot of what FC has forecast could happen.
Sorry folks, I really don't see us turning this round....... we are on the cusp of major change. There will be a degree of die-off - I am unsure how much, but life will be cheaper and most of us will be living in a different world than what we were used to.
The great thing about the British is their disregard for the spelling of their own language. It would not be allowed in France.
I love the fact that Powerswitchers care about this - the standard of the grammar and spelling on many sites is abysmal yet nobody ever seems to notice or care.
"[The Transition Movement is] producing solutions, not a shopping list for suicide" - Rob Hopkins
hydrogas wrote:I see a future filled with alternative fuel vehicles in every garage being refueled or charged at home mostly with wind turbines and solar panels atop each house. Of course there will still be areas of the country still chugging away with coal and oil but these are becoming fewer and fewer. This is my Utopia anyway.
I can't see wind turbines being fixed to every house - most houses would fall apart.
But there is a vast amount of roof space which could be given over to pv if the price could be got down. Looking at where I work, the enormous area of almost flat roofs on industrial units is a sheer waste of space.
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
2020
Feels almost impossible to see this far into the future... maybe aliens will come to rescue anyone who remains shambling around the dustbowl that used to be Milton Keynes shopping centre.
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2012:
It will be compulsory for people to dig up their lawns to plant veg ( which will then be raided by those too lazy to fend for themselves.
Car boot sales patrolled by armed guards to stop looting.
Big increase in sales of guns and weapons.
Freak weather conditions increase ~ summer drought and water shortages.
Mass deaths of Britain's elderly in the coldest winters of 2010 and 2011~
Pension companies will collapse with no bailing out from the government.
The Olympic games will go ahead (bankrupting us finally) ~ the power will be switched on for 2 hours a night to celebrate and and for a brief time we will all think everything will be all right.
christa wrote:2020
Feels almost impossible to see this far into the future... maybe aliens will come to rescue anyone who remains shambling around the dustbowl that used to be Milton Keynes shopping centre.
The Centre MK (Wow) is more up then down, so it would require a small nuclear explosion to turn it into a bowl,
Peter.
Does anyone know where the love of God goes when the waves turn the seconds to hours?
christa wrote:2012:
It will be compulsory for people to dig up their lawns to plant veg ( which will then be raided by those too lazy to fend for themselves.
I ain't digging up my lawn (if I had one ). I'll use no-dig whatever the law tries to force on me .
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