Fuel Storage for stoves, lights, vehicles, and other uses.

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Re: Fuel Storage for stoves, lights, vehicles, and other uses.

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adam2 wrote: 02 Nov 2023, 11:57
clv101 wrote: 02 Nov 2023, 11:47 How long does petrol last, in the fuel tank of an old Jag? If the car's aren't on the road, the idea of filling and emptying every few months 'just in case' seems way to much effort.
Better to buy diesel vehicles!
Diesel fuel might indeed have been a batter choice, the petrol was removed by a hand pump and used regularly.
Assuming those two jags weren't runners and not on the road their tanks would need to be filled with petrol brought in via jerry cans and if the owner is staying legal that would mean no more than 30L at a time as that is the maximum that could be carried by a roadworthy car unless the jags are trailered to a filling station ? All seems an awful lot of effort for very little return...
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Yes they were filled from jerry cans, and Yes it does seem a lot of effort for marginal gain.
They now store a large supply of Aspen 4 petrol. Probably in excess of the legal limit but it is well hidden and buried. The plastic cans are of course safe from rust.
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I have NEVER heard of anyone actually measuring the volume of petrol stored domestically.
They might look at the number and capacity of the petrol containers, but actually tipping out and measuring the contents sounds too unlikely to worry about.
A couple of 20 litre jerry cans each stated to contain 15 litres, but actually filled to 18 litres might be tempting ! a 20% increase is worthwhile.

That would in theory invalidate fire insurance, but in practice, if the fire DID NOT involve the petrol I cant imagine anyone tipping it out and measuring it. If the fire DID involve the petrol, I doubt that even an experienced investigator can tell the difference between a fire involving 30 litres and 36 litres.

Larger volumes need to be well hidden. Petrol is is very useful and potentially of great value in case of any emergency, but even modest volumes make me a bit nervous, and large volumes make me very nervous.
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A strike by oil delivery drivers is threatened. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cw00xzeqvk7o

It might be prudent to review fuel supplies. Remember that only 30 litres of petrol may be lawfully stored.
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If keeping a number of jerry cans for different fuels, and possibly for other liquids, it would be sensible to use different coloured cans to denote what is contained within.
I am not aware of any official colour scheme in the UK, but the following seems to be generally accepted.

RED= PETROL
YELLOW=DIESEL FUEL
BLUE= PARRAFFIN (but be aware that blue is sometimes used for potable water on board boats)
WHITE==POTABLE WATER.
BLACK=ENGINE LUBRICATING OIL.
STAINLESS STEEL=ETHANOL FUEL/METHS.

BRIGHT GREEN=AVOID as it is sometimes used in the UK for unleaded petrol, but overseas is popular for lubricant.
OLIVE GREEN/DULL GREEN=AVOID UNLESS REPAINTED AS ABOVE. Olive green indicates military property or military surplus, and is not a reliable indicator as to what is contained.

Jerry cans are available in the above colours from WAVIAN FUEL CANS, I confirm that I have no connection with them.https://www.jerrycans.co.uk/product-cat ... fuel-cans/
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I've got a potential petrol stove: a tin can and a large quantity of dry sand!
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