What guns to buy? and related posts.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » 19 Apr 2020, 17:04

vtsnowedin wrote:
Mark wrote: so those good 'ol boys must have pretty big arsenals..
That is a fact.

.., maybe they're expecting another civil war...?
A few actually are. A larger group thinks being prepared for one is the best deterrent to one actually happening.

More of this is the only logical outcome....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51735115

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 19 Apr 2020, 17:34

Mark wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote:
Mark wrote: so those good 'ol boys must have pretty big arsenals..
That is a fact.

.., maybe they're expecting another civil war...?
A few actually are. A larger group thinks being prepared for one is the best deterrent to one actually happening.
More of this is the only logical outcome....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-51735115

That was a truck load of fertilizer and diesel fuel. No firearm involved.

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 19 Apr 2020, 17:43

ReserveGrowthRulz wrote:............Indeed. We'll just settle for worlds only military superpower, world's largest agricultural exporter, world's largest oil and gas producer, world's 2nd largest manufacturing economy....wow...I know you are thinking what I'm thinking...who needs to be an Empire when you've got stats like this?

Just like the UK, which started the industrial revolution because of a happy accident of geography and geology, we had a lot of coal and mineral ores readily available. All those stats of yours are just the result of another happy accident of geology and geography, you had a lot of oil readily available and a lot of prairie land although you have been careless enough to let a lot of it blow away.

"The world's only military superpower"? Because you let your government spent more than the rest of the world put together on armaments while you have one of the developed worlds highest infant mortality rates and, in 2018, you were rated 29th in the world for access to health care and quality. Being a world superpower isn't put above access to health care in most countries.

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 19 Apr 2020, 21:41

kenneal - lagger wrote:
ReserveGrowthRulz wrote:............Indeed. We'll just settle for worlds only military superpower, world's largest agricultural exporter, world's largest oil and gas producer, world's 2nd largest manufacturing economy....wow...I know you are thinking what I'm thinking...who needs to be an Empire when you've got stats like this?
Just like the UK, which started the industrial revolution because of a happy accident of geography and geology, we had a lot of coal and mineral ores readily available.

Far more than you suspected even!

Catweazle · Post by **Catweazle** » 19 Apr 2020, 22:26

ReserveGrowthRulz wrote:Can you imagine how long the empire would have lasted if those pesky colonists hadn't taken their superior DNA out of your breeding stock?

How exactly does that superior DNA manifest itself ? Certainly not in average IQ, the USA ranks 24th globally, whereas our poor breeding stock managed to make the top ten.

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 19 Apr 2020, 23:05

Catweazle wrote:
ReserveGrowthRulz wrote:Can you imagine how long the empire would have lasted if those pesky colonists hadn't taken their superior DNA out of your breeding stock?
How exactly does that superior DNA manifest itself ?

America today...insignificant island nation..today.

Catweazle · Post by **Catweazle** » 20 Apr 2020, 01:12

ReserveGrowthRulz wrote: Certainly I didn't mention IQ once on my list.

I'm not at all surprised, it doesn't fit well with your "superior DNA" belief.

ReserveGrowthRulz wrote:â€¦.and that was just the existing DNA at the time!! Breed those folks for awhile? Presto....

That explains a lot, too many people filling their buckets from the shallow end of the gene pool.

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 20 Apr 2020, 01:20

Catweazle wrote:
ReserveGrowthRulz wrote:â€¦.and that was just the existing DNA at the time!! Breed those folks for awhile? Presto....
That explains a lot, too many people filling their buckets from the shallow end of the gene pool.

Yup. Just genetics in action, leading to global hegemony. Good enough for a working theory anyway.

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 20 Apr 2020, 12:33

Catweazle wrote:
ReserveGrowthRulz wrote:Can you imagine how long the empire would have lasted if those pesky colonists hadn't taken their superior DNA out of your breeding stock?
How exactly does that superior DNA manifest itself ? Certainly not in average IQ, the USA ranks 24th globally, whereas our poor breeding stock managed to make the top ten.

It manifests itself in President Trump and the large number of people who support and vote for him! And in the people in that photo who feel the necessity to go to a political rally armed to the teeth. Reminds me of the early days of the Nazi Party in Germany with Trump in the place of Hitler.

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 20 Apr 2020, 21:48

kenneal - lagger wrote: It manifests itself in President Trump and the large number of people who support and vote for him!

I'm not so quick to make that assumption.

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 20 Apr 2020, 22:41

I think the white nationalist brand of misogynist xenophobia is a small splinter group about the size of the communist revolutionary wing of the Democratic party. Trumps major supporters were anybody but Hillary people and are much less radial then the far right. Of course the vocal extremist are the ones that show up at rallies and protests so appear to be the driving force both right and left.
That" anybody but Hillary" group is up for grabs as they have been dismayed at Trump's ineptitude. They would love to vote for a competent person somewhere near the center. A senile liberal does not meet that test so Trump might well win reelection.

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 20 Apr 2020, 23:47

vtsnowedin wrote:I think the white nationalist brand of misogynist xenophobia is a small splinter group about the size of the communist revolutionary wing of the Democratic party.

That was my assumption early on as well.

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 21 Apr 2020, 01:15

Aren't candidates sellected by popular vote in each party?

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 21 Apr 2020, 01:50

kenneal - lagger wrote:Aren't candidates sellected by popular vote in each party?

You would hope so but apparently not true. When it became possible that Bernie might win the Democrat nomination with about 35 percent of the vote with the rest split between four or five possible contenders the powers that be on the Democrat side twisted arms and forced out all the other contenders (I wonder what hey promised each of them ) so it became a contest between Bernie (A white jew) in the south with a Democratic black majority. The voters had no real choice and are stuck with senile Biden.

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 21 Apr 2020, 02:54

kenneal - lagger wrote:Aren't candidates sellected by popular vote in each party?

Yes.