What guns to buy? and related posts.

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 11 Mar 2020, 15:59

Sorry, RGR, in replying to your post I have managed to erase it and don't seem to be able to reinstate it. It was entirely unintentional. I must have clicked on the edit button instead of the quote button.

eatyourveg · Post by **eatyourveg** » 11 Mar 2020, 21:03

kenneal - lagger wrote:Sorry, RGR, in replying to your post I have managed to erase it and don't seem to be able to reinstate it. It was entirely unintentional. I must have clicked on the edit button instead of the quote button.

Bloody hell RGR, you got an apology for something, from an admin.!

Celebration time or what

Catweazle · Post by **Catweazle** » 11 Mar 2020, 21:53

My choices are based on having to carry the guns around in all weathers, whilst wearing a variety of clothing and performing various tasks. They'll get dusty and dirty, knocked about and neglected and I'll be too busy to keep stripping and cleaning them. Once in a blue moon I'll have to fire a shot or two, possibly at very short notice, and they'll need to work. Hence revolver, bolt action and pump action, keeping it simple.

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 11 Mar 2020, 22:38

Catweazle wrote:My choices are based on having to carry the guns around in all weathers, whilst wearing a variety of clothing and performing various tasks.

Same here.

Catweazle · Post by **Catweazle** » 12 Mar 2020, 00:16

Post apocalypse I wouldn't be heading for the cinema. That revolver would be used for killing pigs and cattle for years, with no hunting in the mud for cases, and will probably double up as a hammer occasionally. It will never rust, is unlikely to jam, and if an aged cartridge fails to fire you can try another five rapidly.

If modern propellants and primers aren't available the cartridges for all three guns can be loaded with improvised powder, no need for powerful loads to work the actions. All three can be loaded subsonic if necessary.

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 12 Mar 2020, 01:17

Catweazle wrote:Post apocalypse I wouldn't be heading for the cinema. That revolver would be used for killing pigs and cattle for years, with no hunting in the mud for cases, and will probably double up as a hammer occasionally. It will never rust, is unlikely to jam, and if an aged cartridge fails to fire you can try another five rapidly.

If modern propellants and primers aren't available the cartridges for all three guns can be loaded with improvised powder, no need for powerful loads to work the actions. All three can be loaded subsonic if necessary.

I have a full 1000 primer brick sitting on my bench along with several pounds of powders. At my present rate of consumption that will last me to about 2100

but of course I won't last it until then

Anyway I'll never need to make my own powder and would not want to run the risks involved in making primers or caps. I'll stick with the crossbow if it comes to that.

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 12 Mar 2020, 02:31

Catweazle wrote:Post apocalypse I wouldn't be heading for the cinema.

You aren't going to be alive when the apocalypse arrives any more than I will.

Catweazle · Post by **Catweazle** » 13 Mar 2020, 19:30

ReserveGrowthRulz wrote:Which is why I've got a Ruger GP100, 6" barrel, in 357 magnum.

That model was just coming onto the UK shooting scene when the government banned handguns. Closest I had to that was a S&W 686.

I'm not sure what your comments about the rapture mean, my preferences are purely theoretical, and based on the premise that if I lived in the USA gun battles with multiple assailants would not be a regular occurrence. I'd visualise using them to kill a few pigs per year, take the occasional deer for the freezer, pop some rabbits and pigeons, and perhaps, very rarely, make some noise to scare away someone who was sneaking around by the barn.

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 13 Mar 2020, 22:23

Catweazle wrote:
ReserveGrowthRulz wrote:Which is why I've got a Ruger GP100, 6" barrel, in 357 magnum.
That model was just coming onto the UK shooting scene when the government banned handguns. Closest I had to that was a S&W 686.

Pretty similar, overall.

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 15 Mar 2020, 00:47

I am using some of my time staying isolated at home down at my loading bench. I have a box of 243s ready to charge and loaded two of them to run over the chronograph more as a function and fit test in the rifle before I load the whole box with that same charge. As they are for the ten year old son of a relative I'm loading them with a starting load to get less recoil for training purposes. Plenty of time to work up a little hotter when fall hunting approaches.

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 15 Mar 2020, 01:09

vtsnowedin wrote:I am using some of my time staying isolated at home down at my loading bench. I have a box of 243s ready to charge and loaded two of them to run over the chronograph more as a function and fit test in the rifle before I load the whole box with that same charge. As they are for the ten year old son of a relative I'm loading them with a starting load to get less recoil for training purposes. Plenty of time to work up a little hotter when fall hunting approaches.

Since Wednesday, prices on my usual 9mm supplier have increased 20%.

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 15 Mar 2020, 01:31

I've never bothered loading any pistol ammo. I have the dies to load all he deer rifles I have plus some for friends and relatives. Mostly though I load for my 7x57 loads you can't find commercially due to the existence of antique weak actions like the Remington rolling block.
Having a Ruger M77 I can load up to the same pressures as the 270 or 308 so instead of factory 175 gr at 2460 (if you can find it) I have no trouble getting to 2600fps loaded with my favorite bullets Nozler partitions. Good moose and black bear medicine.

Vortex2 · Post by **Vortex2** » 15 Mar 2020, 13:53

Glock 27 (yes...I know...no safety)

A friend of mine in the UK carries a Glock in .45 which has, he claims has NO safeties which he finds perfect: point and fire!

(Yes, yes I know that handguns are banned in the UK ... but this guy is SAS Reserve or something)

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 15 Mar 2020, 14:26

Vortex2 wrote:
Glock 27 (yes...I know...no safety)
A friend of mine in the UK carries a Glock in .45 which has, he claims has NO safeties which he finds perfect: point and fire!

Yes...perfect.... until you holster the thing.

Vortex2 · Post by **Vortex2** » 15 Mar 2020, 19:49

Is your opinion of a gun with no manual safeties a reasonable thing in general?

Personally, if I was in a war zone or high criminality area I would demand such a handgun.

I have missed more than a couple of long gun shots due to being flustered and forgetting to take the safety off.

I wouldn't want that to happen when trying to deal with a perp.