Wood / Solid fuel burning stoves

What changes can we make to our lives to deal with the economic and energy crises ahead? Have you already started making preparations? Got tips to share?

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Compo
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Post by Compo »

Actually took delivery of the Dunsley today. Not ready to fit it at the moment. Have just this week finished virtually rebuilding the side walls up the arch. Needed to support and brace the thing - had to remove bricks and re-lay them as the mortar had almost turned to dust! End result is hopefully a stronger chimney breast.

Just got to decide on the hearth material now and clean up the inner back wall.

Have also decided to go with a flue liner. Saves all the messing of having to slope the upper side of the register plate to encourage the crap toward the stove pipe. And it means that the plate itself does not have to be as robust and as absolutely gas tight. I'll probably use angled aluminum and a thin sheet of stainless, or will there be a reaction iirc.

The chimney is fine so don't actually NEED a liner but when it's done it's done! I can almost fit and forget about it, cept for the odd clean once a year. Was thinking of getting the better 904 SS liner as it's supposed to more suitable than the 316 for overnight slumbering. Seen it for about ?25 per mtr......so about ?200 for the 8 mtrs i need plus all the other bit and bobs. Will prolly need a cowl and will defo need a roof ladder (prolly hire one) and to overcome my uneasiness of heights :P

So then, will it be done by Xmas.........I doubt it. :roll:
Hopefully by new year.

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MisterE
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Dont get a roof ladder by the arms to attach to a normal one ?14 in wickes. Great news, look forward to seeing the finished job. I lined mine with the cheaper one and used purlite around that. Good thing about a flue is it gets hotter so nowt sticks to it, well nothing to cry about. Looking good there Compo :-)
"I'd put my money on the sun and solar energy. What a source of power! I hope we don't have to wait until oil and coal run out before we tackle that." — Thomas Edison, 1931
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Post by Compo »

Thanks MrE.
Btw, What did you do re Building Regs? Particularly with the chimney/flue aspect of things. You're probably a qualified builder are you? So not a worry in that case.
I've got the missus giving me ear ache about needing to satisfy the house insurance people and needing to get a compliance certificate or something. Which I understand but needs must. "Fine", i said but if you want this done sooner rather than later, an inspection would have to be done retrospectively. Personally, I'm not that bothered as I've done enough research to know it's gonna fitted properly but rules is rules I suppose! :roll:
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Ok I put mine in to the letter following building regs. But I did not apply for them as I was doing work on my house that would give me a problem with planning hence didnt want them around. The best thing is to pay the ?50 and have the building inspector come out and look at it, you'll get a cert then.

I'm the wrong person to ask for advice as I'm a tradesman rebel on my own home. I do my own gas, electric and stove lol

I wont let people work on my home because they are often rough, and all this registration is nonsense. Maybe my house insurance will screw me I dont know but i look at it like this. I'd rather do a job perfect to regs and not only to regs but above that based on my 20 yrs of knowledge, than claim on my house insurance after the kids got electrocuted or my family got blown up by a gas leak - because I got certs saying oh it was ok!

For me it works like this

1. Life first
2. Top quality work
3. Paperwork.

for most its

1. Paperwork
2. quality work
3. life

Have you got the regs for installing a stove and hearth, I got them here somewhere if you need them :-)
"I'd put my money on the sun and solar energy. What a source of power! I hope we don't have to wait until oil and coal run out before we tackle that." — Thomas Edison, 1931
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Oh yeah, stop sticking all those A4 plans and paper on the wall. Your giving us tradesmen a bad name looking all profesional there, make some mess muwhahahahaaaa :P

Nah looking good there, cant wait to see the finished article.
"I'd put my money on the sun and solar energy. What a source of power! I hope we don't have to wait until oil and coal run out before we tackle that." — Thomas Edison, 1931
Compo
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Post by Compo »

lol :lol:

They're just the results of paint test pots. A damn good thing we didn't paint the walls before doing this fireplace. Oh the muck! :shock:

Yeah, I'm like you. Get it fitted properly by someone you trust to do it right. .......errrrm that'll be yourself then! And if it goes wrong, at least you can have a word with yourself, call yourself stupid and put it right without the all whinging. I must say though, I'm my worst boss!

I wonder what the weather's gonna be like this week. Not looking forward to climbing up onto the roof and doing the flue liner with Jack Frost up there - the toe-rag! :lol:
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Post by MisterE »

Lol dont envy you. Be sure to get someone to give you a hand. I had to put my flue in down from the top. It was a 9'nch flue and I had only 9inches and a touch square to get it in. Hence if you got a bigger opening you can throw a rope down attach it to the flue and pull it up. Its not a fun job, but when its all done its great, and the view from the roof is nice too :-)
"I'd put my money on the sun and solar energy. What a source of power! I hope we don't have to wait until oil and coal run out before we tackle that." — Thomas Edison, 1931
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Did you use the pot hanger method or did you remove the pot and clamp the liner etc. The first method sounds like a nice quick way to do it.

I guess if you used a 9" liner (who said size doesn't matter) then you prolly had the pot off.

I ask as I've been trawling the flue websites this afternoon comparing prices and delivery etc. I'll prolly order the necessary bits early in the tomorrow morning to get here this week with a bit of luck.
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Post by MisterE »

Yep pot off. Also hit the end of the flue with a hammer to turn it into a point, roped that and away we go. But I had to pull it down and not up due to my tight space.

Have you tried fluesystems.com

OOOOOOOOOOOooooOO got to rush off and polish my plaster whoooo hooo its my last set!
"I'd put my money on the sun and solar energy. What a source of power! I hope we don't have to wait until oil and coal run out before we tackle that." — Thomas Edison, 1931
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Fluesystems.com.......yeah, they are one of about 4 or 5 sites I've found. They look like one of the better sites.....good info. Is that who you used?

I'm curious....why did you use a 9" flue on your Clearview. IIRC isn't it a 7" outlet on that stove.

Buff that plaster :P
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Yes that is who I used. Soz mate yep it was 7, its the flue opening that is 9, with render hence its smaller than 9. Was thinking in terms of bricks lol being a bricky :-) Yes defo 7. I bet you cant wait to get that in. Renovating myself here. All my 1940's doors are off and in Cardiff being dipped. The stove is lit and I tell you what its freeeeeeeezing out and its warmed the whole house very nice, heated the water and I've only used 5 logs :-)
"I'd put my money on the sun and solar energy. What a source of power! I hope we don't have to wait until oil and coal run out before we tackle that." — Thomas Edison, 1931
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MisterE wrote: The stove is lit and I tell you what its freeeeeeeezing out and its warmed the whole house very nice, heated the water and I've only used 5 logs :-)
Yeah....go on! Rub it in!
I'm sat here with me little halogen heater and in the background I can hear the muffled sound of the electric meter giving it "Kerching" every 30 seconds! And it's still freezing!

Aye, I'm looking forward to getting it setup. Did a trial run tonight ie. had to take a few measurements with the stove in situ so I wheeled it into position...........well, couldn't help myself and have a sneaky preview.

Been trying to work out the best way to do the stove pipes tonight...ie. lengths and elbows and angles etc.

Fluestore look favourite at the moment.....don't know if they do 1-2 day delivery. I sense you were happy with them so I may give them a try. Either them or Hotline Chimneys.....i know they can do next day....not much difference in price.

Right....need to get me hot water bottle sorted before bed :wink:

Brrrrrrrrr.
MisterE
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Post by MisterE »

Muwhahahahahahaaa. I was in that boat two years ago :-) Yep very happy with them. Plus I fitted my mates stove down the street and done the flue all for free as I'm good like that. His order got messed up and had a piece missing, they sent it next del all free. I'm going to put some normal coal on today for a laugh to see how well it does. I may even order some more wood and top up as its looking like its going to be a bad winter. I was going to go back to work in January, sod that if it stays this cold, I'll start my bathroom renovation lol and work in the warm :-)
"I'd put my money on the sun and solar energy. What a source of power! I hope we don't have to wait until oil and coal run out before we tackle that." — Thomas Edison, 1931
Compo
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Post by Compo »

I don't mean Fluestore....I meant Fluesystems.com!

Sadly, they've just this morning said no more orders till Jan. :roll:

I'll order from HotLine Chimney instead - no diff on price.

Is your house a forties build? Mine too! Just after the war. I think they used flour and water for the mortar mind :lol:
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Post by MisterE »

yep same as. Engineering brick, great on your drill. Black mortar. Lead wire, later changed to tin, straw block walls upstairs, lath n plaster ceilings, ash from the tip for the floor and quarry tiles - cooorrr they dont build them like used to - THANK FECK!

Almost gutted all of mine now, bathroom and one bedroom left to do.
"I'd put my money on the sun and solar energy. What a source of power! I hope we don't have to wait until oil and coal run out before we tackle that." — Thomas Edison, 1931
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