Running away to Wales.

stumuz · Post by **stumuz** » 29 Nov 2008, 20:44

JohnB wrote: It would be fun being somewhere where the locals are being rude about the English in Welsh, and see their faces when they realise I understand

Puts me in mind when I was watching Newsnight last year when the economics reporter Stephanie Flanders? Was interviewing someone in the pub in south Wales and the lad had a great big beaming smirk on his face as he was being interviewed.
The beaming smirk was, because, as a lot of welsh people had immediately noticed, his tee shirt had the triple feathers and underneath read,
‘’ Twll Din Pob Saes’’ or translated ‘’ the English are arseholes’’

I almost wet myself laughing. Not because of the tee shirt but the broad, smug, mischievous, schoolboy beaming smile on his face when he was being interviewed LIVE!

RevdTess · Post by **RevdTess** » 29 Nov 2008, 20:54

Hmm, seems common.

http://welshfootball.blogspot.com/2008/ ... -sais.html

JohnB · Post by **JohnB** » 29 Nov 2008, 21:00

Tess wrote:Hmm, seems common.

http://welshfootball.blogspot.com/2008/ ... -sais.html

Trouble is, the Welsh all understand English, so we can't do it back to them

. Not that we'd want to of course, especially as we'd want to be accepted in their country

willf · Post by **willf** » 29 Nov 2008, 21:04

limpet's folly hey? i looked at that one! what made you choose it? did you get a good deal?

RevdTess · Post by **RevdTess** » 29 Nov 2008, 21:22

willf wrote:limpet's folly hey? i looked at that one! what made you choose it? did you get a good deal?

I can't say I got a great deal, no. The difficulty is the place is fairly unique - at least I haven't found anywhere as perfect for our needs in the same price range that doesn't require substantial rebuilding. If you're willing to knock down an old barn and rebuild from scratch you can probably do better, but that's not something I wanted to take on right now.

I chose it primarily because of the price and the large south-facing terraced garden. I wanted a house that was rustic but serviceable, ie something that didnt add too much to the value of the property, but wouldn't need £000s spent on immediate work.

willf · Post by **willf** » 29 Nov 2008, 22:03

exactly! it's right in the range we want and for all the reasons you said but just too far from my work. best of luck with it all. it was on for alot more in the start of the year.

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RevdTess · Post by **RevdTess** » 29 Nov 2008, 22:13

willf wrote:exactly! it's right in the range we want and for all the reasons you said but just too far from my work. best of luck with it all. it was on for alot more in the start of the year.

Yes, both the bf and I had to get used to the idea of changing careers and having much lower income before we could look at somewhere like this. A lot of the journey has been psychological. I understand it was originally offered for about £150k so on that basis I guess I got a good deal, though obviously it doesn't feel like it when the money is exiting your bank account...

Vortex · Post by **Vortex** » 30 Nov 2008, 17:35

Trouble is, the Welsh all understand English, so we can't do it back to them

When the Welsh switch from speaking English to Welsh as we walk into one of their shops, my family then switch from speaking English to German.

Post Peak Oil we will see:

DominicJ · Post by **DominicJ** » 01 Dec 2008, 11:32

From a legal/political viewpoint, Wales is also much more tightly bound to England than Scotland.

Scotland could leave (or be thrown out of) the Union quite quickly, the border is only 60 miles long, 2500 men would be more than enough for border control and would serve as tripwire for any raiding party.
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I dont forsee a war between English Border patrol and Scottish Brigands, but why risk it?
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I wouldnt want to be North of the Border living in a large house that generates its own power and is surrounded by its own estate/grounds if that happened. I really wouldnt want to be English and north of the border in TEOTWAWKI

Wales, for a number of reasons, doesnt really have that (independance/quarantene) option.

welshgreen · Post by **welshgreen** » 01 Dec 2008, 19:22

mind you where ever you move to, when things get bad you will always be seen as an outsider. stealing resources etc, the best thing is to integrate with the community as much as possible. if coming to wales dont be like your typical english person, who ignores the culture and takes the piss out of the language. respect it and im sure you will be welcomed, do the opposite and you will be resented and when things get bad, then people will turn to the arrogant sais.

GD · Post by GD » 01 Dec 2008, 19:52

DominicJ wrote:From a legal/political viewpoint, Wales is also much more tightly bound to England than Scotland.

Scotland could leave (or be thrown out of) the Union quite quickly, the border is only 60 miles long, 2500 men would be more than enough for border control and would serve as tripwire for any raiding party.
****
I dont forsee a war between English Border patrol and Scottish Brigands, but why risk it?
****

I wouldnt want to be North of the Border living in a large house that generates its own power and is surrounded by its own estate/grounds if that happened. I really wouldnt want to be English and north of the border in TEOTWAWKI

Wales, for a number of reasons, doesnt really have that (independance/quarantene) option.

Are you for real? Border patrols and tripwire? Are you talking peak oil or Dawn of the Dead?

JohnB · Post by **JohnB** » 01 Dec 2008, 19:56

welshgreen wrote:mind you where ever you move to, when things get bad you will always be seen as an outsider. stealing resources etc, the best thing is to integrate with the community as much as possible. if coming to wales dont be like your typical english person, who ignores the culture and takes the piss out of the language. respect it and im sure you will be welcomed, do the opposite and you will be resented and when things get bad, then people will turn to the arrogant sais.

I wouldn't dream of doing anything else. Given my skills at learning languages, it might be respect for it rather than an ability to use it though!

RevdTess · Post by **RevdTess** » 01 Dec 2008, 20:02

welshgreen wrote:mind you where ever you move to, when things get bad you will always be seen as an outsider. stealing resources etc, the best thing is to integrate with the community as much as possible. if coming to wales dont be like your typical english person, who ignores the culture and takes the piss out of the language. respect it and im sure you will be welcomed, do the opposite and you will be resented and when things get bad, then people will turn to the arrogant sais.

There was another thread in which I said I would learn Welsh if I ever moved to Wales. We'll see now whether I actually meant it...

I don't think I would consider myself an ex-pat English woman in Wales. I'm looking to make a long term home for myself and have no desire to import Englishness with me, any more than I have to. I find the cultures of the west (be it Irish, Welsh, Cornish, or Highlands) far more interesting, if only because they strike me as being much less obsessed with profit and more interested in autonomy.

It's not Englishness I particularly dislike though. It's the whole debt-consumerism-waste model, that seems to have been in the driving seat since the English civil war. It's just that England seems to have embraced the madness particularly badly.

welshgreen · Post by **welshgreen** » 01 Dec 2008, 20:18

i have no problem where people are from, in fact wales is such a great country everyone should enjoy it but that would be daft. I wish you all planning on coming the very best of luck and you will have a warm welcome. its just a small minority who are bitter due to the idiotic notion of nationalism.

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 01 Dec 2008, 20:44

welshgreen wrote:...sais

Is that the Welsh for Sassenach?