Second Agricultural Revolution

Magnus · Post by **Magnus** » 26 Dec 2005, 17:00

About ten years ago I read The Secret Life of Plants and Secrets of the Soil. I was really inspired by these maverick gardeners experimenting with low energy physics. Philip Callahan's 'Towers of Power' and Dan Carlson?s use of frequencies in birdsong to make plant leaves more permeable to airborne nutrients with amazing results, and many more alternative techniques.

http://www.sonicbloom.com/

http://froebuck.home.texas.net/newpage3.htm

I remember thinking when I read these books that there was a grass roots 2nd Agricultural revolution beginning on the sly.

Having just finished preparing a vegetable plot I will be ready to start experimenting in spring. Has any one tried using: Paramagnetic Round Towers, Sonic Bloom or paramagnetic basalt dust in their gardening? Do you envisage a 2nd Agricultural revolution beginning as peak oil kicks in?

isenhand · Post by **isenhand** » 27 Dec 2005, 10:56

Well, you could see something like ruralisation as a second agricultural revolution. People producing more of their own food etc.

Magnus · Post by **Magnus** » 27 Dec 2005, 16:57

Daniel Quinn in his thought provoking book, The Story of B, traces our destructive human behaviour back to what we call the Neolithic ?Agricultural Revolution? 10000 years ago. In his opinion this label completely obscures the significance of this event.

http://www.ishmael.com/welcome.cfm

He believes we are where we are now (overpopulated, industrialised, polluted mess teetering on collapse) because of what happened at this time. He takes an entire book to highlight this so I won?t attempt a summary.

Obviously much of the British landscape is now suited to farming cows and sheep. Most people will agree this is not the most skilful way to feed a large population. It has also led to a lot of topsoil erosion. I have a sneaky suspicion that another culture such as the Mayans would start terracing all our hills and growing lots of vegetable crops.

Did anyone see that wonderful documentary by the BBC From The Heart of The World The Elder Brothers Warning by Alan Ereira.

http://www.eremite.demon.co.uk/Tairona/conts.html

What struck me most about the Kogi was that they had turned an entire mountain into a food forest with an intricate network of step paths and irrigation systems. This together with planting crops and keeping animals allowed them to maintain a large population without fossil fuel inputs of one sort or another.

Their approach to farming is more or less what I had in mind with regards to a 2nd Agricultural Revolution in Britain.

I personally think we could learn a lot from the Kogi Tribe as we head into a post peak world.

isenhand · Post by **isenhand** » 28 Dec 2005, 14:01

Magnus wrote:
He believes we are where we are now (overpopulated, industrialised, polluted mess teetering on collapse) because of what happened at this time. He takes an entire book to highlight this so I won?t attempt a summary.

Well, I haven?t read the book but I would not be surprised by what you say of it. Complex dynamic systems have that as a characteristic. Things that happened quite far in the past set up how things are now as things that are happening now will form the future for a long time ahead.

Magnus wrote:
Their approach to farming is more or less what I had in mind with regards to a 2nd Agricultural Revolution in Britain.

I personally think we could learn a lot from the Kogi Tribe as we head into a post peak world.

Again, without seeing the details it sounds very much like permaculture to me. Ruralisation in away is permaculture on a very large scale.

isenhand · Post by **isenhand** » 28 Dec 2005, 14:01

Magnus wrote:
He believes we are where we are now (overpopulated, industrialised, polluted mess teetering on collapse) because of what happened at this time. He takes an entire book to highlight this so I won?t attempt a summary.

Well, I haven?t read the book but I would not be surprised by what you say of it. Complex dynamic systems have that as a characteristic. Things that happened quite far in the past set up how things are now as things that are happening now will form the future for a long time ahead.

Magnus wrote:
Their approach to farming is more or less what I had in mind with regards to a 2nd Agricultural Revolution in Britain.

I personally think we could learn a lot from the Kogi Tribe as we head into a post peak world.

Again, without seeing the details it sounds very much like permaculture to me. Ruralisation in away is permaculture on a very large scale.

isenhand · Post by **isenhand** » 28 Dec 2005, 14:02

Magnus wrote:
He believes we are where we are now (overpopulated, industrialised, polluted mess teetering on collapse) because of what happened at this time. He takes an entire book to highlight this so I won?t attempt a summary.

Well, I haven?t read the book but I would not be surprised by what you say of it. Complex dynamic systems have that as a characteristic. Things that happened quite far in the past set up how things are now as things that are happening now will form the future for a long time ahead.

Magnus wrote:
Their approach to farming is more or less what I had in mind with regards to a 2nd Agricultural Revolution in Britain.

I personally think we could learn a lot from the Kogi Tribe as we head into a post peak world.

Again, without seeing the details it sounds very much like permaculture to me. Ruralisation in away is permaculture on a very large scale.