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Nigel Lawson loses no sleep over global warming

Posted: 21 Apr 2008, 05:42
by Aurora
Times Online - 20/04/08

Nigel Lawson, the Iron Lady?s chancellor, scourge of the miners and father of the adorable Nigella, has joined the ranks of the climate change sceptics. He believes David Cameron?s green agenda is overblown, biofuels are useless and carbon trading resembles ?nothing so much as the sale of indulgences by the medieval church?.

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<snip> ?People have been talking about ?peak oil? for as long as I can remember,? Lawson says, with a sniff. ?It?s not going to happen in the foreseeable future.?

Hang on a minute. The Hirsch report, commissioned by the US Department of Energy, concluded that we need to prepare for the likelihood of oil shortages at least two decades in advance. And President George Bush, challenged recently to ask the Saudis to pump more oil for the US, replied that they may not have the capacity to pump more. Lawson is unfazed. ?They?ve got plenty,? he says.
:roll: :x
<snip> ?Biofuels,? he says, ?have become one of the European Union?s latest fads. It?s far from clear that ethanol produces more energy than is used in its own production. In the second place, it requires a vast amount of land to produce a relatively small amount of ethanol. This not only antagonises environmentalists, upset by the destruction of rainforests for this purpose, but has also led to a marked rise in food prices ? in particular the price of grain.?
Strange that he should be so wrong about one issue and yet so right about another.

Posted: 21 Apr 2008, 09:36
by Neily at the peak
He is 76, why should he worry?

Posted: 21 Apr 2008, 11:53
by RenewableCandy
He believes David Cameron?s green agenda is overblown, biofuels are useless and carbon trading resembles ?nothing so much as the sale of indulgences by the medieval church?.
Sadly he has a point, on all 3 counts!

What someone needs to do is convince him about that Shell News article from Our (ex-) Man In Uzbekistan, that not having proper renewables (wind, sea-current, solar etc) will result in losing the Cold War... :D

Posted: 21 Apr 2008, 13:18
by Bandidoz
I can't understand how someone who's so ugly with a face like an arse (that talks a load of bollocks) could spawn such a beautiful and sensible daughter :P

At least he got one thing right. Perhaps she could infuriate him by releasing Nigella's low-energy cookbook for a climate and energy-constrained world:P

Posted: 21 Apr 2008, 13:22
by sentiententity
Strange that he should be so wrong about one issue and yet so right about another.
By my count, that's wrong on two things and right about another... :)

He was on The World Tonight on Radio 4 the other night. It was really quite disturbing: he just asserted things that have been demonstrated untrue ages ago, very confidently. Ms Shah was sort of wrong-footed by the blatant nature of the enterprise; without calling him a total liar there wasn't much she could do. I've never heard a better example of the Nazi maxim (was it Goebbels?) that you can get away with a big lie more easily than a small one.

s.

Posted: 21 Apr 2008, 15:08
by syberberg
sentiententity wrote:
Strange that he should be so wrong about one issue and yet so right about another.
By my count, that's wrong on two things and right about another... :)

He was on The World Tonight on Radio 4 the other night. It was really quite disturbing: he just asserted things that have been demonstrated untrue ages ago, very confidently. Ms Shah was sort of wrong-footed by the blatant nature of the enterprise; without calling him a total liar there wasn't much she could do. I've never heard a better example of the Nazi maxim (was it Goebbels?) that you can get away with a big lie more easily than a small one.

s.
Indeed it was Goebbels, he who elevated propaganda to an art form. What Mr. Lawson is doing is the tactic known as argumentum ad nausaem. (With added nausaem just because of who he is :wink:)

Posted: 21 Apr 2008, 16:11
by Aurora
Bandidoz wrote:I can't understand how someone who's so ugly with a face like an arse (that talks a load of bollocks) could spawn such a beautiful and sensible daughter :P

At least he got one thing right. Perhaps she could infuriate him by releasing Nigella's low-energy cookbook for a climate and energy-constrained world:P
Nigella beautiful? Bandidoz, you should have gone to SpecSavers. :wink: :lol:

Posted: 21 Apr 2008, 16:17
by kenneal - lagger
Neily at the peak wrote:He is 76, why should he worry?
And he's an economist who believes in infinite growth. Say no more!

Posted: 21 Apr 2008, 16:24
by emordnilap
Aurora wrote:Nigella beautiful? Bandidoz, you should have gone to SpecSavers. :wink: :lol:
Be fair, she does have a couple of nice attributes.

Posted: 21 Apr 2008, 16:25
by Aurora
Image :lol:

Posted: 21 Apr 2008, 17:02
by kenneal - lagger
Aurora wrote:Image :lol:
I love nibbling on cherry cakes!

Posted: 21 Apr 2008, 18:14
by Bandidoz
Phwoar!
Image

Posted: 21 Apr 2008, 19:25
by Vortex
Image

Posted: 21 Apr 2008, 19:34
by Aurora
Bandidoz wrote:Phwoar!
:roll: Get yourself one of these :lol:

Image

Posted: 21 Apr 2008, 23:56
by syberberg
Bandidoz wrote:Phwoar!
Image
2 reactions when looking at that photo:

Marks out of 10..I'd give 'er one!

and

I wonder how much water was wasted taking that photo?

I think I may need help. :?