New member.

[Jakell]

Hello everybody.

I'm from Sheffield, but have arrived here via the LATOC forum, like quite a few other members I notice.

Funny how the internet seems to make geography irrelevant, but the implications of peak oil draws you back to your locality.

My first inklings about potential problems due to oil shortages were during the fuel protests of 1999/2000 (it is nice not to have to explain these things for a international crowd)
I noticed how people were becoming panicked even at just rumours of shortages. People seemed to be developing a siege mentality and supermarket shelves soon became poorly stocked (at least where I shop)

The situation then, to me was not serious. And I wondered what would happen during a more lengthy shortage.

I reckon a lot of you could relate to what led me from then to here, so I wont bore you with a lengthy introduction. Just that I'm happy to be here.

BTW does Pippa really moderate all the forums?

Jakell

[RenewableCandy]

Hello and welcome! You're not that far, cosmically-speaking, from me.

[Jakell]

Hello everybody.

I'm from Sheffield, but have arrived here via the LATOC forum, like quite a few other members I notice.

etc.

Jakell

Sorry folks, have accidentally posted this in General Discussion. I meant to post it in the thread 'how did you find out about PO'. if somebody can move this for me please do

Jakell

[Jakell]

Hello and welcome! You're not that far, cosmically-speaking, from me.

What were your memories of the fuel protests?

Jakell

[RenewableCandy]

Now you're talking! We were in the throes of moving house (twice in one year, and with a lot of renovating) and at the time none of us was a driver, so really it kind of passed us by. Both the cities where we lived have good supply lines, so I didn't even notice any disruption to the supply of food.

What I do remember is the successful effort to reduce fuel poverty in the city we moved from (Glasgow), down from 40% of households to under 10% in 3 years, not bad going.

And of course events in our new home city, in 2000, overshadowed the fuel protests (and to think we moved to get away from the rain!). High Tide by Mark Lynas opens in York in November 2000.

[Jakell]

Now you're talking! We were in the throes of moving house (twice in one year, and with a lot of renovating) and at the time none of us was a driver, so really it kind of passed us by. Both the cities where we lived have good supply lines, so I didn't even notice any disruption to the supply of food.

I needed to drive to get to work at the time. As a nurse I had a bit of paper that theoretically would have allowed me to jump the petrol queues. Thankfully I didn't need to use it as it it may have caused some consternation.

What I do remember is the successful effort to reduce fuel poverty in the city we moved from (Glasgow), down from 40% of households to under 10% in 3 years, not bad going.

Do you mean domestic fuel, I'm not aware of this.

And of course events in our new home city, in 2000, overshadowed the fuel protests (and to think we moved to get away from the rain!). High Tide by Mark Lynas opens in York in November 2000.

I do recall there being a lot of flooding in that year. I think that may have been part of my climate change 'awakening'. We were ok in Sheffield that year, but suffered floods last year.

How did Leeds fair in the floods last year?

jakell

[RenewableCandy]

I don't remember Leeds being all that badly afflicted. But I remember finding out that Meadowhall is built on an old ox-bow lake, which I thought was particularly daft.

[Jakell]

I don't remember Leeds being all that badly afflicted. But I remember finding out that Meadowhall is built on an old ox-bow lake, which I thought was particularly daft.

That is a new one to me, but I wouldn't be surprised. A lot of development has happened on flood plains etc. (the clue's in the name dickheads ! ).

I seem to recall York had a great deal of flooding in 2000, but not much mention of it last year. Had York successfully moved its problem downstream to some other hapless town?

You could follow the problem all the way down the River Don last year.. When Meadowhall dried up, Catcliffe got flooded,when that receded, Doncaster got it etc. etc.

Jakell

[syberberg]

Hello Jakell,

Welcome aboard the Titanic, please select a deckchair and move it closer to a lifeboat. Later in the evening, we'll be entertaining ourselves by stealing all the used champagne corks from 1st Class and stringing them together to form a make-shift liferaft. Meanwhile, the band (Sgt. Doomsayer's Lonely Oil Plateau Aware Club Band) will play on.

[Jakell]

Hello Jakell,

Welcome aboard the Titanic, please select a deckchair and move it closer to a lifeboat. Later in the evening, we'll be entertaining ourselves by stealing all the used champagne corks from 1st Class and stringing them together to form a make-shift liferaft. Meanwhile, the band (Sgt. Doomsayer's Lonely Oil Plateau Aware Club Band) will play on.

Thanks. I watched Yellow Submarine again the other day and continue to be amazed by it's freshness. I can't think of any other film from the era quite like it.
These days it would be copied and sequeled until we were sick of it. Oh and don't forget merchandising and TV spinoffs

jakell

[Mean Mr Mustard]

Hello Jakell,

Welcome aboard the Titanic, please select a deckchair and move it closer to a lifeboat. Later in the evening, we'll be entertaining ourselves by stealing all the used champagne corks from 1st Class and stringing them together to form a make-shift liferaft. Meanwhile, the band (Sgt. Doomsayer's Lonely Oil Plateau Aware Club Band) will play on.

Thanks. I watched Yellow Submarine again the other day and continue to be amazed by it's freshness. I can't think of any other film from the era quite like it.
These days it would be copied and sequeled until we were sick of it. Oh and don't forget merchandising and TV spinoffs

jakell

But there was... I remember having a Yellow Submarine toy (when I was 6.4...!) And you can still buy the 'collectable' plastic Fab Four figures with all the other groovy characters like the Blue Meanies.

[Eternal Sunshine]

Hi Jakell, and welcome. My friend was a student nurse in Sheffield in the late 80s & I remember some good nights out there with her.

[RenewableCandy]

To be pedantic: Fuel Poverty is defined as having to spend more than 10% of your income on fuel/energy for your house (cars don't come into it). It was quite an issue in Glasgow with the cold damp weather and lack of sunshine, also because the City Council was the largest landlord in Europe(!) so it could, in theory, refurbish 1/4 of the city. However I think someone worked out that the billions needed were more than all the public money in Scotland!

[mikepepler]

Hello everybody.

I'm from Sheffield, but have arrived here via the LATOC forum, like quite a few other members I notice.

etc.

Jakell

Sorry folks, have accidentally posted this in General Discussion. I meant to post it in the thread 'how did you find out about PO'. if somebody can move this for me please do

Jakell

If I move it you lose the title of the thread, and people will wonder where it's gone, so I'l leave it here - don't worry about it

Oh, and Pippa is the main moderator, but there are several of us. There's rarely anything that actually needs moderating though, thankfully

[Jakell]

Oh, and Pippa is the main moderator, but there are several of us. There's rarely anything that actually needs moderating though, thankfully

Not like LATOC then, things have been a bit heated over there. One British guy has been bugging them all, and has got himself a temporary ban.

They've had a huge influx of newbies there, has it been similar here? People must be starting to catch on.

Jakell