Statement of beliefs
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Statement of beliefs
I found myself wondering deep in the bowels of Powerswitch tonight. Maybe I was searching for that all elusive grain of evidence which would miraculously make all the difference .
Anyway, I decided to reaquaint myself with what this show is all about and re-read the Statement of Beliefs. There is a good list there of other sites of use including www.drydipstick.com.
Goody, goody, I found a convenient checklist, one of those what to do next sort, it goes like this:- (you'll find my comments in brackets in bold after each what to do next suggestion )
But your community?and most especially you?can do something to lessen the local effects of Peak Oil:
Familiarize yourself with the pros and cons of Peak Oil, and decide how seriously you want to take the threat. (You may decide it's not much of a threat at all.) Remember that it's the effects of Peak Oil that are of concern. For example, it's not a question of how you are going to get to the supermarket to buy food. It's how the food is going to get there.
Read one or more of the basic introduction and guides to Peak Oil. dunnit
Familiarize yourself with some of the major Peak Oil websites. dunnit
See a movie about Peak Oil. At this point, we particularly recommend The End of Suburbia. dunnit
Read a book on Peak Oil. dunnit, dunnit, dunnit, dunnit!
Join an Internet forum so you can discuss Peak Oil with others
Find a group near you and get together with others who are also concerned about Peak Oil. not dunnit
Sign a petition, join an activist group, or contact a politician urging that they take action to deal with Peak Oil. The longer they wait, the less they can do, but at least they can do something. dunnit, dunnit and dunnit
Consider establishing?or joining?a Peak Oil community. not dunnit
Find ideas that will help your current community prepare for Peak Oil. We recommend our sister site Beyond Peak.
One of the most important of these is gardens . Plant your own or work with neighbors to start a community garden. For example, see what they're doing in Vancouver, B.C. dunnit to planting but haven't managed to get to Vancouver (yet)
You can?and should?also support your local Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) farm. Most provide regular deliveries of food and, at some, you can even pick your own food. Here's full information. not dunnit
Become familiar with the following websites that are all focused on dealing with Peak Oil, now and later:
Beyond Peak seen it
A guide to self-sufficiency. Living sustainably with Peak Oil and economic collapse. seen it
Busby Report
U.K. survival in the 21st century not seen it
Community Solution.org
The community solution to Peak Oil not seen it
Independence Journal
Sustainable living news for "exurban living"?getting along at the edge of the Western resource-intensive lifestyle never heard of it before
Life After the Oil Crash
Website for the author of The Oil Age is Over double seen it!
Los Angeles Post Carbon
Peak Oil activists in the Los Angeles area seen it
Oil Scenarios.info
An excellent site with detailed information on five different Peak Oil scenarios, ranging from Pollyanna to Head for the Hills not seen it
Permatopia
Permaculture solutions to Peak Oil, climate change and other environmental crises seen it
Post Carbon Institute
Learning to live in a low energy world. An educational institution and think tank that explores what society might look like without oil and gas. Includes community activist effort seen it
Surviving Peak Oil
Grass roots ideas for survival. New website. Excellent seen it
Anything you do to help yourself, your family, your friends, your neighborhood and your community prepare for Peak Oil will be valuable, even if Peak Oil effects are not as serious as many expect. The more your community is connected, self-sufficient and sustainable, the better. And you'll feel better because you're taking positive action.
Well, on the basis of this list I must, on balance, be ready for Peak Oil surely to goodness!!!!! Happy Days......
Copyright ? 2005 Mick Winter[/b]
Anyway, I decided to reaquaint myself with what this show is all about and re-read the Statement of Beliefs. There is a good list there of other sites of use including www.drydipstick.com.
Goody, goody, I found a convenient checklist, one of those what to do next sort, it goes like this:- (you'll find my comments in brackets in bold after each what to do next suggestion )
But your community?and most especially you?can do something to lessen the local effects of Peak Oil:
Familiarize yourself with the pros and cons of Peak Oil, and decide how seriously you want to take the threat. (You may decide it's not much of a threat at all.) Remember that it's the effects of Peak Oil that are of concern. For example, it's not a question of how you are going to get to the supermarket to buy food. It's how the food is going to get there.
Read one or more of the basic introduction and guides to Peak Oil. dunnit
Familiarize yourself with some of the major Peak Oil websites. dunnit
See a movie about Peak Oil. At this point, we particularly recommend The End of Suburbia. dunnit
Read a book on Peak Oil. dunnit, dunnit, dunnit, dunnit!
Join an Internet forum so you can discuss Peak Oil with others
Find a group near you and get together with others who are also concerned about Peak Oil. not dunnit
Sign a petition, join an activist group, or contact a politician urging that they take action to deal with Peak Oil. The longer they wait, the less they can do, but at least they can do something. dunnit, dunnit and dunnit
Consider establishing?or joining?a Peak Oil community. not dunnit
Find ideas that will help your current community prepare for Peak Oil. We recommend our sister site Beyond Peak.
One of the most important of these is gardens . Plant your own or work with neighbors to start a community garden. For example, see what they're doing in Vancouver, B.C. dunnit to planting but haven't managed to get to Vancouver (yet)
You can?and should?also support your local Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) farm. Most provide regular deliveries of food and, at some, you can even pick your own food. Here's full information. not dunnit
Become familiar with the following websites that are all focused on dealing with Peak Oil, now and later:
Beyond Peak seen it
A guide to self-sufficiency. Living sustainably with Peak Oil and economic collapse. seen it
Busby Report
U.K. survival in the 21st century not seen it
Community Solution.org
The community solution to Peak Oil not seen it
Independence Journal
Sustainable living news for "exurban living"?getting along at the edge of the Western resource-intensive lifestyle never heard of it before
Life After the Oil Crash
Website for the author of The Oil Age is Over double seen it!
Los Angeles Post Carbon
Peak Oil activists in the Los Angeles area seen it
Oil Scenarios.info
An excellent site with detailed information on five different Peak Oil scenarios, ranging from Pollyanna to Head for the Hills not seen it
Permatopia
Permaculture solutions to Peak Oil, climate change and other environmental crises seen it
Post Carbon Institute
Learning to live in a low energy world. An educational institution and think tank that explores what society might look like without oil and gas. Includes community activist effort seen it
Surviving Peak Oil
Grass roots ideas for survival. New website. Excellent seen it
Anything you do to help yourself, your family, your friends, your neighborhood and your community prepare for Peak Oil will be valuable, even if Peak Oil effects are not as serious as many expect. The more your community is connected, self-sufficient and sustainable, the better. And you'll feel better because you're taking positive action.
Well, on the basis of this list I must, on balance, be ready for Peak Oil surely to goodness!!!!! Happy Days......
Copyright ? 2005 Mick Winter[/b]
Re: Statement of beliefs
Here goes...
Read one or more of the basic introduction and guides to Peak Oil. dunnit
Familiarize yourself with some of the major Peak Oil websites. dunnit
See a movie about Peak Oil. At this point, we particularly recommend The End of Suburbia. dunnit - but I recommend Colin Campbell's piece from the "Fuelling the Future" DVD as an introduction to others. Next, "the community solution". Then EoS
Read a book on Peak Oil. dunnit to death! More interested in "solutions" books these days (e.g. Humanure Handbook)
Join an Internet forum so you can discuss Peak Oil with others
Find a group near you and get together with others who are also concerned about Peak Oil. have acquaintances - not part of a group like SWESES
Sign a petition, join an activist group, or contact a politician urging that they take action to deal with Peak Oil. The longer they wait, the less they can do, but at least they can do something. dunnit, dunnit and dunnit. I keep an eye on Milliband's blog
Consider establishing?or joining?a Peak Oil community. have considered - but considering's not really enough
Find ideas that will help your current community prepare for Peak Oil. We recommend our sister site Beyond Peak. nope
One of the most important of these is gardens . Plant your own or work with neighbors to start a community garden. For example, see what they're doing in Vancouver, B.C. doing some planting and regularly feed the compost bin
You can?and should?also support your local Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) farm. Most provide regular deliveries of food and, at some, you can even pick your own food. Here's full information. nope, but am a member of the Soil Association
Become familiar with the following websites that are all focused on dealing with Peak Oil, now and later:
Beyond Peak looked at ages ago
A guide to self-sufficiency. Living sustainably with Peak Oil and economic collapse. looked at ages ago
Busby Report
U.K. survival in the 21st century read it. "Energy Beyond Oil" is better.
Community Solution.org
The community solution to Peak Oil Excellent film that I totally recommend, with the subtitles on
Independence Journal
Sustainable living news for "exurban living"?getting along at the edge of the Western resource-intensive lifestyle never heard of it before - sounds like "Self-Sufficientish"
Life After the Oil Crash
Website for the author of The Oil Age is Over looked at ages ago
Los Angeles Post Carbon
Peak Oil activists in the Los Angeles area seen it
Oil Scenarios.info
An excellent site with detailed information on five different Peak Oil scenarios, ranging from Pollyanna to Head for the Hills nope
Permatopia
Permaculture solutions to Peak Oil, climate change and other environmental crises looked at ages ago
Post Carbon Institute
Learning to live in a low energy world. An educational institution and think tank that explores what society might look like without oil and gas. Includes community activist effort looked at ages ago
Surviving Peak Oil
Grass roots ideas for survival. New website. Excellent look at it occasionally, the font hurts my eyes
I'd also recommend "Wolf at the door" for beginners. Then dieoff.org. Follow Transition Culture and the Oil Drum
Olduvai Theory (Updated) (Reviewed)
Easter Island - a warning from history : http://dieoff.org/page145.htm
Easter Island - a warning from history : http://dieoff.org/page145.htm
Add to list?
More about it in the "Collective Intelligence" thread in this forum...Check out World Without Oil, starting April 30, www.worldwithoutoil.org
"Play it - before you live it."
Just that I too have read the books, bought the videos, been to a conference, moved to the country, bought a bit of land .... BUT ... I still feel that knowing about Peak Oil (or GW for that matter) will NOT significantly affect the outcome on a personal level.
We will all be in the same boat when the wotsit hits the fan.
Economic depression, authoritarian government, shortages will hit the cogniscenti almost as hard as the wastrels.
In fact the inner city yob with his illegal gun, or the local civil servants might do a lot better than any of us!
Sure, we may have a slightly better diet from our vegggies and eggs ... but life will still be crap.
The criminals, the rich and the Powers That Be will still be on top of the hill as ever ... the hill will simply be smaller.
Perhaps it would be better NOT to know about PO and enjoy our package tours to Benidorm and our patio heaters for a few more years ...
We will all be in the same boat when the wotsit hits the fan.
Economic depression, authoritarian government, shortages will hit the cogniscenti almost as hard as the wastrels.
In fact the inner city yob with his illegal gun, or the local civil servants might do a lot better than any of us!
Sure, we may have a slightly better diet from our vegggies and eggs ... but life will still be crap.
The criminals, the rich and the Powers That Be will still be on top of the hill as ever ... the hill will simply be smaller.
Perhaps it would be better NOT to know about PO and enjoy our package tours to Benidorm and our patio heaters for a few more years ...
Yes!!!! That's exactly what I meant in the first place.
Its a revolving door, we enter outside, go round and round and find oursleves back where we started.....
We're on the road to nowhere.... (tallking heads)
All this worry and stuff 'aint going to make a scrap of difference, not really. "The word" isn't really getting out and when it does watch out. I'm definately not up trying to spread the word anymore. Its destructive and useless. In the meanwhile I'll enjoy PS forum for my sad little fix
A more useful list for me now than the first one
Things I like
Getting up in the morning and realising its true
My family
My health
My Discovery 4 x 4
My horse
Being outside
My allotment
Learning the truth (thanks PO)
Trying to stay out of the do do for as long as possible
Fun
Fun
Music
ETC ETC ETC
Its a revolving door, we enter outside, go round and round and find oursleves back where we started.....
We're on the road to nowhere.... (tallking heads)
All this worry and stuff 'aint going to make a scrap of difference, not really. "The word" isn't really getting out and when it does watch out. I'm definately not up trying to spread the word anymore. Its destructive and useless. In the meanwhile I'll enjoy PS forum for my sad little fix
A more useful list for me now than the first one
Things I like
Getting up in the morning and realising its true
My family
My health
My Discovery 4 x 4
My horse
Being outside
My allotment
Learning the truth (thanks PO)
Trying to stay out of the do do for as long as possible
Fun
Fun
Music
ETC ETC ETC
I would conclude that that results from the fact that we all form a society. Thus, what we do at an individual level does not effect much. In other words, we would also need to group together and work together, not as individuals.Vortex wrote:Just that I too have read the books, bought the videos, been to a conference, moved to the country, bought a bit of land .... BUT ... I still feel that knowing about Peak Oil (or GW for that matter) will NOT significantly affect the outcome on a personal level.
The only future we have is the one we make!
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Indeed. You can't escape society, nor probably do you actually want to. Looks like you (we) have to save it.isenhand wrote:I would conclude that that results from the fact that we all form a society. Thus, what we do at an individual level does not effect much. In other words, we would also need to group together and work together, not as individuals.Vortex wrote:Just that I too have read the books, bought the videos, been to a conference, moved to the country, bought a bit of land .... BUT ... I still feel that knowing about Peak Oil (or GW for that matter) will NOT significantly affect the outcome on a personal level.
"Play it - before you live it."
OK, let's build an alternative society!
You guys & gals can raise the crops, do the cooking & the cleaning & mending and all that good stuff.
For a small fee, I'll provide Security ... you know, to keep the marauders off your - err ... our - crops.
I'll also run the community radio station to ensure that you all receive the news, unmodified & unbiased.
I'll only need a Jeep, a small ration of fuel and of course a nice shiny gun.
In fact, for community safety I'll be the ONLY one to possess a gun.
Let's do it!
You guys & gals can raise the crops, do the cooking & the cleaning & mending and all that good stuff.
For a small fee, I'll provide Security ... you know, to keep the marauders off your - err ... our - crops.
I'll also run the community radio station to ensure that you all receive the news, unmodified & unbiased.
I'll only need a Jeep, a small ration of fuel and of course a nice shiny gun.
In fact, for community safety I'll be the ONLY one to possess a gun.
Let's do it!
The zen buddhists say the same thing about becoming enlightened. Before enlightenment, chop wood and carry water. After enlightenment, chop wood and carry water.Pippa wrote:Yes!!!! That's exactly what I meant in the first place.
Its a revolving door, we enter outside, go round and round and find oursleves back where we started.....