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UK’s first Lithium Refinery
Posted: 16 Apr 2023, 10:20
by Mark
Re: UK’s first Lithium Refinery
Posted: 16 Apr 2023, 10:36
by adam2
Good news.
Better to refine it in the UK, rather than overseas. Jobs for British workers.
UK production is hopefully greener than in most other places.
Re: UK’s first Lithium Refinery
Posted: 16 Apr 2023, 11:03
by Mark
Agreed......, now all we need is a Gigafactory for lithium-ion batteries....
Re: UK’s first Lithium Refinery
Posted: 16 Apr 2023, 11:20
by adam2
Mark wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 11:03
Agreed......, now all we need is a Gigafactory for lithium-ion batteries....
Which will be slightly more viable if the raw material is produced locally rather than being imported.
Despite the failure of the first attempt.
Re: UK’s first Lithium Refinery
Posted: 17 Apr 2023, 06:55
by mr brightside
Is there not enough recycled or recyclable lithium around in this country? Quite a lot of batteries must get wanged in the UK.
Re: UK’s first Lithium Refinery
Posted: 17 Apr 2023, 08:35
by UndercoverElephant
Why build it on Teeside when the UK's lithium is in Cornwall?
Re: UK’s first Lithium Refinery
Posted: 17 Apr 2023, 14:31
by Mark
UndercoverElephant wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 08:35
Why build it on Teeside when the UK's lithium is in Cornwall?
That crossed my mind too, but I think the amount in Cornwall is tiny in global terms....
The port, and the existing chemical infrastructure and skills probably make Teesside more viable....
This chart shows which countries produce the most lithium:
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2023/01/ ... ium-world/
Suspect the new refinery will be targeting material from South America....?
Surprised that Bolivia's not on the list....
Re: UK’s first Lithium Refinery
Posted: 17 Apr 2023, 15:28
by PS_RalphW
I have heard that the Tesla model Y has the battery pack as a part of the structure of the car to save weight, which is great except even minor road damage can damage the structure of the battery, making both the car and the battery a write off, over safety concerns. This will accelerate the need and financial incentive to build battery recycling plants quickly, and making the Tesla very expensive to insure.
Re: UK’s first Lithium Refinery
Posted: 17 Apr 2023, 23:24
by BritDownUnder
I think Evo Morales when he was Bolivian President banned foreign companies undertaking lithium mining. I understood that the Salar de Uyuni was the world's single largest source of lithium.
Re: UK’s first Lithium Refinery
Posted: 18 Apr 2023, 14:43
by Mark
Bolivia’s dream of a lithium future plays out on high-altitude salt flats:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... salt-flats
Think another problem, not mentioned, will be getting the lithium out of Bolivia, with it being a land-locked country...
The Bolivians are still sore about losing the War of the Pacific, and hence their access to the sea...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Pacific
Re: UK’s first Lithium Refinery
Posted: 18 Apr 2023, 22:13
by BritDownUnder
Yes the rail line to Chile's ports makes the most sense for Bolivia and Lithium at $85,000 per tonne is tempting. As you said politics may get in the way and the Bolivians are very sore losers. One presumes the rail will be downhill all the way as well making for a kind of perpetual motion train like exists in Australian Iron Ore mines where the full trains go downhill and charge their batteries and then return back from the seaport empty and uphill, much lighter on their battery power.
I expect China will pay peanuts for the reserves and process it themselves.
On another note I think there are a lot of reserves in the US under the Salton Sea - a very interesting place.
Only when the lithium is sitting in my driveway or stuck to the side of my house do I feel happy.
Re: UK’s first Lithium Refinery
Posted: 22 Apr 2023, 16:06
by kenneal - lagger
I would place lead acid on the floor outside my house rather than stick something to the wall. Usually much cheaper.