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Little John wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:02 am they conclusively prove that there was no coronavirus pandemic
Do you have anything to tell us about the moon landings, also?
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The CDC estimates a 99.997% survival rate for those from birth to age 19 who contract COVID-19.

It's 99.98% for ages 20-49

99.5% for 50-69

94.6% for those over 70.

Significantly, those who died of coronavirus, according to the CDC, had an average of 2.6 comorbidities, meaning more than two chronic diseases along with COVID-19.

Overall, the CDC says, just 6% of the people counted as COVID-19 deaths died of COVID-19 alone.

Those of you who cheer-leaded all of the stripping away of our liberties on the back of lies or, even worse, acted as snitches on your neighbours - what you are and what you have done will not be forgotten. People like me will make sure of it. You are scum.
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What are the percentages for people who received no medical treatment, as would be the case if we had let covid run wild and crash our health service ?
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And, LJ, what about the people who spent weeks and, in some cases, months in hospital being treated for covid? Any figures on them and average stay length? Then there is recovery time. Or is that something that gets in the way of your warped ideology?
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Given that the government now tell us that anyone leaving the country will be fined £5000 and a ‘third wave’ of Covid19 is likely to come over here and with it, presumably, more lock-down restrictions, if anyone doesn't understand yet what it's really about and where this is heading, they possibly never will.

This is further compounded with every person who is coerced into taking the vaccine because, having done so, they will be psychologically incapable of denouncing all of this shit because, to do so, would force them to have to acknowledge that they had hitherto been gullible, cowardly fools

Turns out, the majority of people are, when push comes to shove, incapable or unwilling to think for themselves.

Turns out, transforming our societies into totalitarian states was a piece of piss all along.

And that, I think, as much as anything else, is what the "vaccine" is about. That is to say, it serves the same psychological function as masks. It is a classic technique employed in any abusive relationship. The abuser, in coercing the abused into committing ever more extreme and dehumanising behaviours that remove their dignity, ensures their ever growing compliance.

It also ensures that the abused, in order to hold onto what little bit of their self respect that remains, colludes in their own abuse because, to not do so, would be to have to acknowledge they have allowed that abuse to occur up to that point. That collusion involves the further abuse by the already abused against non-compliers. Because non-compliers are a constant reminder to those who have already succumbed of their own weakness in having done so.

It's quite breathtaking in it's audacity and scope.

This has been planned for years. These monsters have done a proper number on millions of people.

This is truly a monstrous thing that is happening.

Democratic remedy has been stopped.

Protest has been stopped.

Freedom of assembly has been stopped.

Travel has been stopped.

We are here.

Close this account now.
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Little John wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:09 am The abuser, in coercing the abused into committing ever more extreme and dehumanising behaviours that remove their dignity,
But you are the abuser in chief on this forum.
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Reported now that vaccine resistant strains now found at 40% of Covid cases in some parts of France. Chief scientific advisers leaning heavily on Johnson to introduce stricter travel controls from France. Large numbers of truck drivers travel from the area without any quarantine measures.

We may have to chose between food shortages or another lockdown until a replacement vaccine can be tested.
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So is France's surge in cases not the Kent strain?
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Little John wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:09 am Turns out, the majority of people are, when push comes to shove, incapable or unwilling to think for themselves.
And here is the contempt that people like you hold for the rest of the population. Saviour of the masses ? No, just another wannabee dictator, shouting and swearing in a frothing rage against imaginary traitors.

If you had any charisma you'd be dangerous.
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Wh a vivid imagination you have, LJ! It is a shame it is engaged in such a deleterious direction.

I am beginning to wonder if there is a campaign being waged in the background against the Oxford vaccination by the other vaccine manufacturers because it is so much cheaper than all the others. At the prices some of the companies are charging there is a lot of money to be lost if there is a good take up of the Oxford vaccine. The fact that despite the vaccine having been tested extensively and also used extensively without problems but unfounded roumors about it keep cropping up suggests to me that their is a wispering campaign going on. Another unproven conspiracy theory, I know, but there is more plausibility to this one than to LJ's rambling.
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The EU are looking increasingly silly WRT vaccines.
On the one hand they express doubts about the safety and suitability of the Oxford vaccine, including various suspensions of use, and/or suggestions that it should only be given to certain sub sets of the population rather than more generally.

Then on the other hand they demand that the UK bail them out by diverting supplies already contracted for by HMG to EU use.

BTW, I expect that ALMOST ALL EU outbreaks will be described as being "UK variants"
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Little John wrote: Wed Mar 24, 2021 8:09 am Close this account now.
He's gone off in a strop before - he'll be back....
Nobody else will listen to him.... :D
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Thank god LJ closed the account before he started ranting on about the supposed "The Climate Change Lie" conspiracy as well! I could see that coming as could CLV. That is one of the main arguments put forward on the Spiked website that seems to have perverted his thinking.
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Report in the Guardian that total uk deaths in the last week is the lowest since 2014. This is partly because of mild weather, very little flu and fewer road deaths in lockdown, but some is due to people having already died of Covid who would otherwise have died this week. They estimate 5 to 15%, but do not specify over what period.

Increased deaths from extra cancers etc. have not yet shown up.

As yet the SA and Brazilian variants do not seem to be getting a hold
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I have heard anecdotal reports that deaths from drug abuse have also declined, due to lockdowns reducing availability of recreational drugs.
A lot of drug users obtained supplies from a mate at work or down the pub. Both often closed. Large music festivals also.

Is there any data on this ?
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