Helping the enemy

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 18 Jul 2016, 02:43

Have any of you had a moment or thought that you realized might be of considerable use to the enemies of your country and stopped typing before you hit send just in case the Bastards might be reading your idle conversations?
I've had a couple of thoughts lately that I certainly don't want them to act on and a thought I had about a year ago has recently come to pass.
The most troubling part is that if I( an average Joe six pack) thought of it it is most certainly obvious and will be thought of shortly regardless.

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 18 Jul 2016, 04:54

Can't say, just in case ....

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 18 Jul 2016, 11:21

kenneal - lagger wrote:Can't say, just in case ....

That is the best answer I suppose. "Loose lips sink ships" and all that.

PS_RalphW · Post by **PS_RalphW** » 18 Jul 2016, 11:31

I have previously mentioned on this forum (several years ago) that key UK energy infrastructure had clear points of vulnerability in remote places (such as NG pipeline terminals) which might be vulnerable to attack, but shortly afterwards I read of increased funding for policing that kind of target, and recent events clearly show that killing innocent people, the more innocent the better, is the current focus of terrorists.

Lord Beria3 · Post by **Lord Beria3** » 18 Jul 2016, 18:47

I seriously doubt anybody is reading this forum like that.

After all, nobody talks about peak oil any more.

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 18 Jul 2016, 23:07

Lord Beria3 wrote:I seriously doubt anybody is reading this forum like that.

After all, nobody talks about peak oil any more.

Then why are we still here?

woodburner · Post by **woodburner** » 18 Jul 2016, 23:13

To discuss the thoughts of Chairman LB3.

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 19 Jul 2016, 14:30

Fúck 'em all.

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 19 Jul 2016, 14:47

The reason why we are here is to discuss the Power Switch from fossil fuels to renewables and the lifestyle changes that that switch will entail. The main emphasis might have changed from a Peal Oil motivator to a combined Peal Oil/Climate Change one but the effects will be very similar to the economy and to our lives.

woodburner · Post by **woodburner** » 19 Jul 2016, 15:01

There's not much discussion about that.

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 19 Jul 2016, 22:07

woodburner wrote:There's not much discussion about that.

Well most of the main arguments have been exhaustively thrashed out and we are now down to watching current events and comparing them to previous predictions. I think the population bomb climate change, peak-oil trident of doom is still in force and all that has changed is the timeline of negative events.

Lord Beria3 · Post by **Lord Beria3** » 19 Jul 2016, 22:52

Agreed.

Peak oil hasn't gone away but inevitably the political and economic impact of peak oil/climate change dominates the news agenda these days.

The thing is that most people have no understanding, or wish to understand, the deeper Limits to Growth issues.

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 20 Jul 2016, 04:23

Lord Beria3 wrote:......The thing is that most people have no understanding, or wish to understand, the deeper Limits to Growth issues.

The trouble is that most ECONOMISTS have no understanding, or wish to understand, the deeper Limits to Growth issues. These are the people who run the world.

Until an economist realises that continuous economic growth is an impossibility, and the rest agree with him, we are all ****ed! Perhaps the study of economics in its current form should be banned!

mr brightside · Post by **mr brightside** » 24 Jul 2016, 16:47

kenneal - lagger wrote:The trouble is that most ECONOMISTS have no understanding, or wish to understand, the deeper Limits to Growth issues. These are the people who run the world.

Until an economist realises that continuous economic growth is an impossibility, and the rest agree with him, we are all ****ed! Perhaps the study of economics in its current form should be banned!

It is for this reason Powerswitch has to continue. The big issues are changing all the time, peak oil has happened and now we are dealing with the foreshocks of whatever form economic decline will take. At some point the numbers of people waking up to this problem will see big increases in traffic and lurking on sites like PS. I think there is a moral responsibility to keep information flowing and aggressively attack misinformation and neutralise it; for now all we can do is keep on ranting!

woodburner · Post by **woodburner** » 24 Jul 2016, 17:39

How do you know what is misinformation? That means we need acess to the truth, but according to who? Even trump claims he is telling the truth, whereas he wouldn't know it if it slapped him in the face.