Look back in hunger: Britain's silent, scandalous epidemic

[Aurora]

The Independent - 06/04/12

Evidence is mounting that thousands of children in the UK are not getting enough food to eat – and that, as financial hardship spreads, their numbers are increasing rapidly.

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Whilst you're all drooling over the next piece of iShite or 'must have' App, do try to spare a thought for what's going on in the real world.

[woodburner]

"What we have seen suggests there are thousands of people in this country going hungry – making hard choices between, fuel, warmth, transport and food,"

The priority has to be food. Anything else coming first is going to cause problems.

His alcoholic father left his mother two years ago. When case workers first visited Chris's home, the only food the children were given was cheap, fried, processed food.

It is possible to have cheap, and unprocessed food, but people don't give time to food nowadays but want to spend time doing other things which are comparatively unimportant. I wonder if loss of teeth had anything to do with sugar intake.

[peaceful_life]

http://vectisradio.co.uk/index.php/2012 ... -phone-in/

Never mind the fact that it's JUST a local radio station,the issue is indicative.
Even so... he expects it to get worse,and this is the Isle of wight.

[stumuzz]

Whilst you're all drooling over the next piece of iShite or 'must have' App,

You are beginning to sound like a resentful old codger.

[Aurora]

Whilst you're all drooling over the next piece of iShite or 'must have' App,

You are beginning to sound like a resentful old codger.

I'm allowed to. I've retired.

[frank_begbie]

"What we have seen suggests there are thousands of people in this country going hungry – making hard choices between, fuel, warmth, transport and food,"

The priority has to be food. Anything else coming first is going to cause problems.

His alcoholic father left his mother two years ago. When case workers first visited Chris's home, the only food the children were given was cheap, fried, processed food.

It is possible to have cheap, and unprocessed food, but people don't give time to food nowadays but want to spend time doing other things which are comparatively unimportant. I wonder if loss of teeth had anything to do with sugar intake.

I remember the days when people had to shop at least every other day.

All food was fresh, no such things as fridges unless you were rich.

Proper food made into proper meals, and we were all healthier for it.

So much for progress

[hodson2k9]

"What we have seen suggests there are thousands of people in this country going hungry – making hard choices between, fuel, warmth, transport and food,"

The priority has to be food. Anything else coming first is going to cause problems.

His alcoholic father left his mother two years ago. When case workers first visited Chris's home, the only food the children were given was cheap, fried, processed food.

It is possible to have cheap, and unprocessed food, but people don't give time to food nowadays but want to spend time doing other things which are comparatively unimportant. I wonder if loss of teeth had anything to do with sugar intake.

I remember the days when people had to shop at least every other day.

All food was fresh, no such things as fridges unless you were rich.

Proper food made into proper meals, and we were all healthier for it.

So much for progress

When progress is measured in economic terms, it is the inevitable outcome. All that mattets is increasing profits, very sad but unfortunately true.

[Aurora]

"What we have seen suggests there are thousands of people in this country going hungry – making hard choices between, fuel, warmth, transport and food,"

The priority has to be food. Anything else coming first is going to cause problems.

His alcoholic father left his mother two years ago. When case workers first visited Chris's home, the only food the children were given was cheap, fried, processed food.

It is possible to have cheap, and unprocessed food, but people don't give time to food nowadays but want to spend time doing other things which are comparatively unimportant. I wonder if loss of teeth had anything to do with sugar intake.

Sugar is highly toxic.

See: http://www.mnn.com/food/healthy-eating/ ... ugar-toxic

Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

[SleeperService]

"What we have seen suggests there are thousands of people in this country going hungry – making hard choices between, fuel, warmth, transport and food,"

The priority has to be food. Anything else coming first is going to cause problems.

His alcoholic father left his mother two years ago. When case workers first visited Chris's home, the only food the children were given was cheap, fried, processed food.

It is possible to have cheap, and unprocessed food, but people don't give time to food nowadays but want to spend time doing other things which are comparatively unimportant. I wonder if loss of teeth had anything to do with sugar intake.

Sugar is highly toxic.

See: http://www.mnn.com/food/healthy-eating/ ... ugar-toxic

Also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

It amazes me that this isn't more widely known. The body struggles to process it and, in many cases gives up trying to. That's diabetes which is fatal if you make a mistake. It's also on the increase in the Western World at least. Part of the Die-off to come??

[Snail]

Here's another very good article on the evilness of sugar:

http://cruinthe.tripod.com/nexus/articl ... blues.html

making hard choices between, fuel, warmth, transport and food,"

Don't get this. Will be true probably in the near future but not now. Can get a bag of pasta for 18p, same for oats and rice and potatoes. Vegetable and fruit are still extremely cheap. Like fuel, probably too cheap. Bag of spinach for 50p etc.. Nothing quicker than making a salad.

It's like heating, lots of cluck-clucking about poor elderly people freezing to death. But nothing practical offered. All these people need is educated about how cheap proper food still is, and how easy it is to prepare.

[paul m]

Here's another very good article on the evilness of sugar:

http://cruinthe.tripod.com/nexus/articl ... blues.html

making hard choices between, fuel, warmth, transport and food,"

Don't get this. Will be true probably in the near future but not now. Can get a bag of pasta for 18p, same for oats and rice and potatoes. Vegetable and fruit are still extremely cheap. Like fuel, probably too cheap. Bag of spinach for 50p etc.. Nothing quicker than making a salad.

It's like heating, lots of cluck-clucking about poor elderly people freezing to death. But nothing practical offered. All these people need is educated about how cheap proper food still is, and how easy it is to prepare.

I am glad you posted this. I thought it was just me who thought this. My family is technically low -income. We think we are rich. Food comes first. We carry a massive stock,have 2allotments and a dozen hens.

It HAS to be about education,surely?

[woodburner]

Thank you Snail. I have lots more to read yet.

In the 1930s, a research dentist from Cleveland, Ohio, Dr Weston A. Price, travelled all over the world-from the lands of the Eskimos to the South Sea Islands, from Africa to New Zealand. His Nutrition and Physical Degeneration: A Comparison of Primitive and Modern Diets and Their Effects,6 which is illustrated with hundreds of photographs, was first published in 1939.

Dr Price took the whole world as his laboratory. His devastating conclusion, recorded in horrifying detail in area after area, was simple. People who live under so-called backward primitive conditions had excellent teeth and wonderful general health. They ate natural, unrefined food from their own locale. As soon as refined, sugared foods were imported as a result of contact with "civilisation", physical degeneration began in a way that was definitely observable within a single generation.

Avoiding sugar, esp fructose, would remove the problem of spending money on something that appears to be positively bad for you. Robert Lustig's lecture on the youtube link is one of the very few videos of 90 minutes I have seen that kept me awake for the duration. Brilliant!

[woodpecker]

My dentist - in practice for 35+ years - told me last month that there's been a revolution among his patients over that time. Whereas lots of 50-70 year-olds had none of their own teeth back then, now it's really unusual to see someone of that age without their own teeth.

Likewise my lot: my gran, grandad, all the 'olders' who had an ideal diet (poor, Mediterranean, when there was enough food) had few if any teeth by that age. My mum has most, and I've got all.

Is it just people brushing/cleaning their teeth? Chlorine? More preventative work? All of the above?

[PS_RalphW]

Brushing, flossing, general dental hygene. Also the NHS. People couldn't afford private dentistry pre-1948, so they never got checkups, and left toothache as long as possible before paying for treatment.

Gum disease destroyed more teeth than sugar (turned to acid by bacteria and dissolving them) directly.

Ir was not uncommon for relatively young people to go and get all their teeth taken out in one go even if they were healthy. It was seen as less painful in the long run .