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BIG tinfoil hat ....ok...here I go...
Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 23:25
by madibe
So, the world is falling around our fiscal ears. The news is full of crap about the fall of economies, the stock market and life as we know it...
Big man says to other big man "shoot a black guy in Tottenham". Make it so.
Guy gets shot.
Riot.
No concern about economy troubles.... the media is far too busy.
Has the US also ordered a similar 'event' - probably more difficult on a scale level.... but...
Discuss and flame.
Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 23:37
by UndercoverElephant
I don't think that is what happened. I think the media don't know how to deal with the overload of massive stories. There's too much happening.
How much have you heard recently about the famine in Africa or the situation in Libya, Egypt, Yemen or Syria?
Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 23:38
by madibe
True... I did say BIG tinfoil hat...
Posted: 09 Aug 2011, 23:50
by frank_begbie
You can bet the words, "Can we use this to our advantage?" have been said.
Posted: 10 Aug 2011, 00:00
by Ludwig
Not totally beyond the realm of possibility Maudibe, though if (and it's a big if) there's anything in your hypothesis, I'd think it more likely that the riots would be instigated to get the general public onside for massive crackdowns on public disorder after TSHTF.
We can only guess.
Posted: 10 Aug 2011, 06:13
by featherstick
I did wonder whether at some level in the police there was a decision to under-resource the initial response, let it all get a bit out of hand, and then say "Look, this is what happens if you cut our money"....
Posted: 10 Aug 2011, 08:57
by DominicJ
Feather
Depends really
How many of the officers who could have made that call will keep their jobs?
High ups in the government are quite unwilling to be fall guys.....
But who knows.
Cameron is so weak he probably wont sack them anyway
Posted: 10 Aug 2011, 09:58
by Mean Mr Mustard
DominicJ wrote:Feather
Depends really
How many of the officers who could have made that call will keep their jobs?
Might have been the ones expected to resign soon anyway, after completing a revised tax return at the invitation of HMRC? Though I can't imagine such opportunistic corrupt officers ever being able to set up a protection racket on such a grand scale though, colluding with Gangsta Boyz rather than corporate scum.
Your enemy's enemy is your friend?
Posted: 10 Aug 2011, 10:02
by featherstick
DominicJ wrote:Feather
Depends really
How many of the officers who could have made that call will keep their jobs?
High ups in the government are quite unwilling to be fall guys.....
But who knows.
Cameron is so weak he probably wont sack them anyway
Wouldn't need to say anything - a nod and a wink at the early stages of the disturbances, then a lot of "we told you so" to ministers in the aftermath.
Posted: 10 Aug 2011, 10:36
by DominicJ
Incompetance is a sackable offence is it not?
Oh god please tell me it is.
A CoP sacked for gross incompetance and negligence, rather than given a golden handshake, is likely looking at a rather less enjoyable retirement than he had planned.
Posted: 10 Aug 2011, 10:54
by featherstick
DominicJ wrote:Incompetance is a sackable offence is it not?
Oh god please tell me it is.
A CoP sacked for gross incompetance and negligence, rather than given a golden handshake, is likely looking at a rather less enjoyable retirement than he had planned.
Yes but a) it wouldn't be regarded as incompetence if it suits the agenda of the very top layers, and b) the elites have rigged the system so that today "even the Captain of the Titanic would have got a bonus for launchng the lifeboats" according to Anthony Hilton in the Standard.
Posted: 10 Aug 2011, 11:11
by DominicJ
My point was more, the police cant be trying to show up the government over "cuts" to police, its almost certain to backfire.
In theory, it could be an attmept legitimise crack downs.
Posted: 10 Aug 2011, 11:38
by featherstick
DominicJ wrote:My point was more, the police cant be (seen, caught, accused of) trying to show up the government over "cuts" to police, its almost certain to backfire.
In theory, it could be an attmept legitimise crack downs.
Also possible, granted.
Posted: 10 Aug 2011, 14:06
by ziggy12345
DominicJ wrote:Incompetance is a sackable offence is it not?
Oh god please tell me it is.....
Not in Nigeria, obviously
Posted: 10 Aug 2011, 15:33
by mindscience
frank_begbie wrote:You can bet the words, "Can we use this to our advantage?" have been said.
Some time ago Chris Rock said:
"All the stuff goin' on in the news, it's just a trick to get your mind off the war. That's all it is. A trick to get your mind off the war. Okay? I think Bush sent that girl to Kobe's room... Bush sent that girl to Kobe's room, Bush sent that lil' boy to Michael Jackson's house, Bush killed Lacy Peterson... Bush was fuckin' Paris Hilton in that video! All to get your mind off the war."
I've studied media and it's all very grey areas there, things often get blown up just to keep the population away from thinking about other issues. I'm not saying this is the case, just elaborating further on your point.