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I'm in my early 20's. Anyone in a similar age range?

Would be great to hear from anyone

18 here.

What's your level of optimism about solutions compared to us oldies?

does 28 count?

fifthcolumn wrote:What's your level of optimism about solutions compared to us oldies?

Depends on the day doesn't it?

I know industrial society can't continue in it's present form but have no idea what might follow it, be it a more localised ultimately poorer economy or the full on doom that some people seem to want.

Whatever comes my way I figure all I can do right now is live my life the best I can now while still keeping in mind the limits of the future. I think I've come to the stage of knowing there's nothing else I can do to prepare for the future so I'm enjoying the present as much as possible instead.

landyowner wrote: I think I've come to the stage of knowing there's nothing else I can do to prepare for the future so I'm enjoying the present as much as possible instead.

Hmm I try to do that, but find it very hard, as I am stuck in doomer mode.

It has got to the stage that when I go out in my car I am constantly pulling over when I see wild food plants by the side of the road.

When I go to clubs, I try and force myself to enjoy it but I find it very hard, knowing the whole entire "false" world could collapse within a period of months.

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What's your level of optimism about solutions compared to us oldies?

Theres advantages and disadvantages.
The older members have the advantage of having a hell of a lot more money to throw at the problem.
But I'd be dishonest if I didnt point out that theres people on here in there late forties or older, with no kids or family, who in 10-20 years time are going to struggle to keep a small holding going.

chris25 wrote: When I go to clubs, I try and force myself to enjoy it but I find it very hard, knowing the whole entire "false" world could collapse within a period of months.

Yeah I had that feeling for quite a while, it was always there in the back of my mind, wherever I went just thinking I was in a fake world of sorts, it lead to a period where I was almost constantly depressed/detached from people. What I've realised now though is that if the world did collapse in a period of months or weeks, just having the knowledge that it can happen won't put me in any better position than anyone else I know because I don't have the means of preparing for something like that.

Half the battle is the mental preparedness - no matter what you think about not having prepared, you are still ahead of the game!

Well done to the young ones on here who obviously have very mature heads on young shoulders. Took me until I was forty, to get that wise.

Define young

I'm 41 and I still feel young.

landyowner wrote:

chris25 wrote: When I go to clubs, I try and force myself to enjoy it but I find it very hard, knowing the whole entire "false" world could collapse within a period of months.

Yeah I had that feeling for quite a while, it was always there in the back of my mind, wherever I went just thinking I was in a fake world of sorts,

I never really did the club thing. Went to lots of parties but mainly in houses/flats not clubs. I found clubs a bit depressing (no conversation: nowt to do with PO). Didn't mean I didn't drink much, mind

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Since I rent, and have no intention of even trying to buy a house (or ability to afford one) until prices come down much more, there is really little I can do one way or another.

I'm more optimistic than most PO'ers.

I was at a party this weekend and had something of an epiphany.

I have absolutly no idea what to do at a party or in a club except rank the women in order of attractiveness and work my way through the list.
I'm not allowed to do that anymore, so I just kind of stand there, which perfectly explains why I get bored at them.

Turning 21 in a matter of weeks. About to finish my degree and am naturally shitting myself. I try to do what others have suggested and life life day by day, doing my best to enjoy cheap thrills such as beer and the internet but I spend at least a small portion of every day considering the realities. I'm at something of a crux stage in my own life and I realise that I can choose to ignore PO and climate change and all the rest of it and get on with living the type of life that my friends and family expect of me, or I can embrace the truth and begin working towards something that will (hopefully) be more resilient, joyous and worth all of my efforts. Can't see how I'm going to achieve this at the moment but I'm aware that these things start from the ground up and I think it's high-time that I disappoint a lot of people by rejecting the mainstream culture of achieving wealth and strive for something my children and grandchildren will be proud of. It's so hard but we've all got to keep on truckin' I suppose. Would be good to keep this thread alive and get some new and fresh faces in (not that the older posters amongst us are worthless of course )