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UK off oil by 2050?
Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 19:56
by Laura123
I have heard a rumor that the UK has a plan to be off oil by 2050. Has anyone else heard this? Thanks!
Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 20:05
by fifthcolumn
Yeah it's this:
North Sea Oil will all be gone by 2020 and since the UK will be an economic basket case nobody will sell us any either.
So we will easily meet the target.
Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 20:10
by Laura123
lol, no this was a real item...
Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 20:11
by fifthcolumn
I'm serious.
Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 21:25
by DominicJ
No one cares if your serious, its you being right thats the problem
Re: UK off oil by 2050?
Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 21:37
by Erik
Laura123 wrote:I have heard a rumor that the UK has a plan to be off oil by 2050. Has anyone else heard this? Thanks!
The Lib Dems have a cunning
plan for the UK to be "self-sufficient" by 2050, which is not quite the same, but at least the year is right! Oh and they'd probably need to win the next election first, as well as the following 10 elections, in order to put this plan into effect...
Oh and welcome to Powerswitch, Laura123. Have fun here while it lasts!
Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 21:56
by Laura123
Hi Erik,
Thanks for replying!
I heard about that proposal... I thought there was something more concrete in the works...
Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 22:43
by eatyourveg
Laura123 wrote:Hi Erik,
Thanks for replying!
I heard about that proposal... I thought there was something more concrete in the works...
Concrete? Get it now whilst you still can
Posted: 06 Feb 2009, 22:46
by JohnB
I didn't think the UK had any sort of plan. Unless our energy is supposed to come from hot air!
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 00:21
by fifthcolumn
JohnB wrote:I didn't think the UK had any sort of plan. Unless our energy is supposed to come from hot air!
Maybe we can export surplus hot air with which to fund our future natural gas and oil imports.
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 04:07
by kenneal - lagger
The Centre for Alternative Technology have published a plan to make Britain Carbon zero in 20 years. for a free download -
http://www.zerocarbonbritain.co.uk/
Re: UK off oil by 2050?
Posted: 07 Feb 2009, 17:12
by Ben
Laura123 wrote:I have heard a rumor that the UK has a plan to be off oil by 2050. Has anyone else heard this? Thanks!
When I read "2050" I thought of this old WWF report. If true, we'll all be off oil by then, no problem.
Earth 'will expire by 2050'
Our planet is running out of room and resources. Modern man has plundered so much, a damning report claims this week, that outer space will have to be colonised. Earth's population will be forced to colonise two planets within 50 years if natural resources continue to be exploited at the current rate, according to a report out this week.
A study by the World Wildlife Fund (WWF), to be released on Tuesday, warns that the human race is plundering the planet at a pace that outstrips its capacity to support life.
Full story The Guardian
Posted: 08 Feb 2009, 16:17
by mobbsey
Laura123 wrote:Hi Erik,
Thanks for replying!
I heard about that proposal... I thought there was something more concrete in the works...
No,
fifthcolumn was absolutely correct.
This is something that I've been taking about for a few years. You can find the details in my slides on the web site at
http://www.fraw.org.uk/ebo/presentation ... n-16.shtml
The source data is from the government's own Joint Energy Security of Supply Committee -- which was abolished in 2007, with no replacement, because this news was considered rather unwelcome to the "business as usual" consensus.
There is no way that the UK is going to transcend this trend because we can't afford to import that much energy without running up so much debt that the economy collapses (e.g., the US ONLY imports about 35% of its energy supply, and Japan imports nearer to 80%, as the UK will do by 2025, but it runs an export-based manufacturing economy to pay for it).
I've been trying to engage politicians and industry-types in a dialogue about this, but they really find it all rather too painful to talk about! In short, we're going down the tubes because those "in charge" can't allow themselves to think of more radical alternatives.
Posted: 09 Feb 2009, 08:01
by jomtones
fifthcolumn wrote:Yeah it's this:
North Sea Oil will all be gone by 2020 and since the UK will be an economic basket case nobody will sell us any either.
So we will easily meet the target.
lulz!