emordnilap wrote:WTSHTF' - I personally think the S hit the F long ago (the '80s) but the fan is what - slow? huge? Whatever, the world started to properly and obviously wind down during the last decade and now we're all getting splattered, some more than others.
Also, this phrase 'post-crash'. It looks not like a crash - which implies a sudden stop - but more like being in a vehicle and the engine cutting out at the top of a long, bendy, scary incline. We'll keep going for quite a time using momentum as we go downhill.
The end of the road is shrouded in mist and there are lots of potholes on the way there.
I think the fuse is lit and sputtering but the bomb hasn't gone off just yet. Anyone can have a personnel crash with the loss of a job or other income stream. But let a large group of people lose there checks on the same day and things will get very interesting very quickly. Imagine if they stopped extending unemployment and declared anyone on a welfare check fit for duty if they could walk to the mailbox and get the notice.
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emordnilap wrote:WTSHTF' - I personally think the S hit the F long ago (the '80s) but the fan is what - slow? huge? Whatever, the world started to properly and obviously wind down during the last decade and now we're all getting splattered, some more than others.
Also, this phrase 'post-crash'. It looks not like a crash - which implies a sudden stop - but more like being in a vehicle and the engine cutting out at the top of a long, bendy, scary incline. We'll keep going for quite a time using momentum as we go downhill.
The end of the road is shrouded in mist and there are lots of potholes on the way there.
I think the fuse is lit and sputtering but the bomb hasn't gone off just yet. Anyone can have a personnel crash with the loss of a job or other income stream. But let a large group of people lose there checks on the same day and things will get very interesting very quickly. Imagine if they stopped extending unemployment and declared anyone on a welfare check fit for duty if they could walk to the mailbox and get the notice.
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featherstick wrote:[Can we get back to the guns and violence please?
I've got a loony tunes bomb about to go off in wily coyote's face and have suggested that any Brit. not living in a city apartment needs to go out and buy no less then three guns which others have suggested will be useful for the soon to arrive packs of feral killer dogs with implications that some of the wild dogs may look remarkably human. How much more guns and violence can we consider here without getting a ring up from New Scotland Yard?
vtsnowedin wrote:I think the fuse is lit and sputtering but the bomb hasn't gone off just yet.
That's one possibility but it seems to me to be bombs, with lots of fuses lit and sputtering. For instance, in just one area - the economy - Undercover Elephant said:
First we had a mortgage debt and housing boom crisis, which was turned into a banking crisis, which was turned into a sovereign debt crisis affecting the big banking nations, which has now turned into a global race to the bottom as all the fiat currencies try to inflate/devalue to keep up with the money-printing that started in the US/UK.
And there's climate change, fossil fuels, health, environment, food...
It's a long descent, which will prove to be a merit.
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
featherstick wrote:[Can we get back to the guns and violence please?
I've got a loony tunes bomb about to go off in wily coyote's face and have suggested that any Brit. not living in a city apartment needs to go out and buy no less then three guns
the ones in the tower blocks having got their gund a while ago already...
It may amuse y'all to know that the day before yesterday Fille and I, on going for a nice walk in the snow, encountered 3 blokes out shooting pigeons and rabbits on the local golf course. I wished them good hunting (as you do), but could fecking kick myself for not mentioning the plethora of pigeons and rabbits on the Plots...
emordnilap wrote:[That's one possibility but it seems to me to be bombs, with lots of fuses lit and sputtering. For instance, in just one area - the economy - Undercover Elephant said:
First we had a mortgage debt and housing boom crisis, which was turned into a banking crisis, which was turned into a sovereign debt crisis affecting the big banking nations, which has now turned into a global race to the bottom as all the fiat currencies try to inflate/devalue to keep up with the money-printing that started in the US/UK.
And there's climate change, fossil fuels, health, environment, food...
It's a long descent, which will prove to be a merit.
I was thinking of all of those as parts of the bomb, climate change= casing ,peak oil=TNT , debt crisis= shrapnel etc. but we are both on the same page there. And yes it may be a long decent but there will be many projecting rocks to get dashed against as you go down so there is no guarantee that any one individual will live all the way to the bottom. The first rule of rappelling down a rock face is be sure your rope goes all the way to the bottom.
RenewableCandy wrote:I did notice they had the decency to be carrying their weapons, erm, folded (or whatever you call it).
But... An armed society is a polite society. Until it isn't
Folded will do. Shotguns with the actions open "Folded as you say" can't be fired without first snapping them shut. A very safe way to carry them between shooting opportunities and a very polite way to approach a person. Not all shotguns have a brake action of that type so muzzle pointed at the ground serves as well.
I was shooting pigeons over a field of cabbages when two women with fluffy dogs marched up and berated me for shooting defenceless animals. I told them that the pigeons were going to be my dinner, one proudly stated "I'm vegetarian, I don't eat dead animals", so I pointed out that the pigeons were eating her dinner and by shooting them I was feeding us both.
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
No, I was thinking more of the type that satisfies my middle-aged-overweight-white-male-armchair-survivalist-posturing-about-zombie-hordes character deficiencies. How many guns do YOU think I should have in each room?
Yeah, it was pretty mild by US standards. Still, not a pleasant place to be.
featherstick wrote:How many guns do YOU think I should have in each room?
Minus 3.
I think you're asking the wrong person.
I experience pleasure and pains, and pursue goals in service of them, so I cannot reasonably deny the right of other sentient agents to do the same - Steven Pinker
Who said anything about having guns in every room in the house? You defenseless Brits would never get through the paperwork. I built a fairly large house, way to large now that the girls have mostly moved out and if you count bathrooms, basement and cold storage it has twelve distinct rooms and at the moment there are only guns in four of them and there is no grand defensive strategy about it it is just here put your gun in your closet.
Is an "armchair survivalist" one who fantasises about surviving apocalyptic events from his armchair or one who wishes to survive apocalyptic events and still have time to sit in his armchair?
It's an important distinction that needs to be made.
I've got a loony tunes bomb about to go off in wily coyote's face and have suggested that any Brit. not living in a city apartment needs to go out and buy no less then three guns which others have suggested will be useful for the soon to arrive packs of feral killer dogs with implications that some of the wild dogs may look remarkably human. How much more guns and violence can we consider here without getting a ring up from New Scotland Yard?
