New coronavirus in/from China

[Little John]

....Worst case we are nearly back at square one, with another surge as we come out of lockdown, and another 100,000 dead by years end

More hysterical horseshit

THE DEATH BY ALL CAUSES RATE FOR 2020 WAS THE SAME OR LOWER THAN 4 OTHER YEARS BETWEEN 2000 AND 2020

HOW MANY TIMES DOES THIS NEED TO BE REPEATED BEFORE IT GETS INTO YOUR DENSE SKULL?

Dunno about the stats. I'm a nurse and we're on our knees compared to previous years. Covid has been everywhere on the wards.

Oh yeah. Which hospital?

[leroy2]

Don't want to divulge that specifically LJ. You all know where I live so its one of two in the city. They're opening a new temp mortuary in one of the carparks.

[Little John]

Don't want to divulge that specifically LJ. You all know where I live so its one of two in the city. They're opening a new temp mortuary in one of the carparks.

No I don't know where you live.

So, just say the city and stop being so coy.

Or are you just bullshitting?

[Catweazle]

Don't want to divulge that specifically LJ. You all know where I live so its one of two in the city. They're opening a new temp mortuary in one of the carparks.

No I don't know where you live.

So, just say the city and stop being so coy.

Or are you just bullshitting?

Do you think it could be Leroy, the hospital worker and member since 2007 ?

[kenneal - lagger]

LJ, you disgust me sometimes. When a person tells you something on this forum that doesn't fit with your political narrative you jump straight in and call them a liar. You really should step back and think about who you are and where you are going. An anger management course might help.

If Leroy had said she/he was a nurse and agreed with your points you would have accepted that and paraded it all round the forum. But she/he didn't. She/He said what many of us have been saying for months now that even current policies are hitting the health service and health service workers very hard indeed and your daft recommendations would hit even harder and bring it completely to its knees. And that would cause many, many more deaths.

Leroy, please don't let LJ's insensitive comments drive you away. Your insider knowledge can help us all understand what is going on and what it means to the health service and the rest of us.

My wife and I are getting our jabs on Wednesday at a local GP run vaccination centre and have our second jabs booked for May. Quite a few people haven't been turning up so the centre has been phoning round local front line services and getting them to send in people so that the Pfizer jabs aren't wasted. All the local police, ambulance, fire service and some shop workers have been jabbed now. Says something about the numbers not turning up, I suppose.

[Little John]

LJ, you disgust me sometimes. When a person tells you something on this forum that doesn't fit with your political narrative you jump straight in and call them a liar. You really should step back and think about who you are and where you are going. An anger management course might help.

If Leroy had said she/he was a nurse and agreed with your points you would have accepted that and paraded it all round the forum. But she/he didn't. She/He said what many of us have been saying for months now that even current policies are hitting the health service and health service workers very hard indeed and your daft recommendations would hit even harder and bring it completely to its knees. And that would cause many, many more deaths.

Leroy, please don't let LJ's insensitive comments drive you away. Your insider knowledge can help us all understand what is going on and what it means to the health service and the rest of us.

My wife and I are getting our jabs on Wednesday at a local GP run vaccination centre and have our second jabs booked for May. Quite a few people haven't been turning up so the centre has been phoning round local front line services and getting them to send in people so that the Pfizer jabs aren't wasted. All the local police, ambulance, fire service and some shop workers have been jabbed now. Says something about the numbers not turning up, I suppose.

Evidence. Remember what that means?

I arranged and then attended my dad's funeral on December the 24th 2020

Want to know what he died of?

Not being treated for what was wrong with him. Then, when my family and I threatened to kick the f***ing A&E doors in if they did not see him, they panicked having finally, belatedly, diagnosed him with a condition called Gaint Cell Arteritis such that, in order to stop him going blind in his second eye, having gone blind in the first due to them refusing to see him for four weeks, they gave him a massive overdose of corticosteroids which sent him into immediate heart failure, stopped the circulation to his feet and made them gangrenous and begin to rot from the ground up.

Then, when they finally let us in to see him, drugged up to the eyeballs to deal with the pain of his rotting feet he was already hardly conscious of our presence. But, even then they did not bother to call us in on the night he died. So, he died alone, surrounded by strangers in f*cking masks without his family round him.

His name was George Gordon Cook of 14 Greenhow Walk Redcar and he was my Dad.

He died of lockdown

[PS_RalphW]

How many people died of covid in the same hospital on the day he died?

[Catweazle]

Sorry to hear that LJ, our parents deserve better.

[kenneal - lagger]

I am truly sorry about your Dad dying but if there wasn't a lock down tens of thousands more people would likely have died. Your Dad didn't die of lock down but of a failure to lock down sooner so that there were fewer people in hospital with covid.

I lost my Dad many years ago when he was only 66 to mesothelioma caused by exposure to asbestos when he was an apprentice in Portsmouth dockyard in the late 1940s. That was as a result of government inaction and it was frustrating in the extreme to not be able to pin the blame on anyone. He officially died of pneumonia even though he had suffered mesothelioma for almost a year so no one was interested and it wasn't the government's fault and they claimed that in the late 1940s they didn't know about the cancer risk of lagging engine room pipes with asbestos even though the problem had been flagged up in the 1930s. You can shout and scream all you want but no one listens so the frustration builds if you let it.

As to evidence, Leroy shouldn't have to supply evidence of his occupation any more than you should have to supply evidence of your Dad dying. I believe you that your Dad died just as I believe that Leroy is a nurse.

Perhaps in a while when you have addressed your grief you might think about addressing your anger issues.

[Little John]

I am truly sorry about your Dad dying but if there wasn't a lock down tens of thousands more people would likely have died. Your Dad didn't die of lock down but of a failure to lock down sooner so that there were fewer people in hospital with covid.

I lost my Dad many years ago when he was only 66 to mesothelioma caused by exposure to asbestos when he was an apprentice in Portsmouth dockyard in the late 1940s. That was as a result of government inaction and it was frustrating in the extreme to not be able to pin the blame on anyone. He officially died of pneumonia even though he had suffered mesothelioma for almost a year so no one was interested and it wasn't the government's fault and they claimed that in the late 1940s they didn't know about the cancer risk of lagging engine room pipes with asbestos even though the problem had been flagged up in the 1930s. You can shout and scream all you want but no one listens so the frustration builds if you let it.

As to evidence, Leroy shouldn't have to supply evidence of his occupation any more than you should have to supply evidence of your Dad dying. I believe you that your Dad died just as I believe that Leroy is a nurse.

Perhaps in a while when you have addressed your grief you might think about addressing your anger issues.

I did not ask for evidence of his occupation .

I asked for the city in which he lived so I could check on the hospital data for that city for myself. Evidence.

I also did not mention my Dad in response to Leroy. I mentioned it in response to you and your sickening virtue signalling

[Little John]

Meanwhile, there has been a leap in Care Home deaths in January on Scotland within a couple of weeks of most residents being vaccinated.

Coincidence?

Reports from whistleblower managers from around the UK saying the same. Silence in the MSM of course.

[adam2]

Don't want to divulge that specifically LJ. You all know where I live so its one of two in the city. They're opening a new temp mortuary in one of the carparks.

No I don't know where you live.

So, just say the city and stop being so coy.

Or are you just bullshitting?

Do you think it could be Leroy, the hospital worker and member since 2007 ?

Possibly the same person who has re-registered, useing a very similar username, perhaps after forgetting original password.
It would be helpfull (though not required) if leroy2 could confirm or deny this.

[careful_eugene]

Report on the MSM BBC website regarding deaths from Covid in Scottish care homes after residents have received the first dose of vaccine. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-55891326

[PS_RalphW]

There is so much that that bbc post did not talk about.

The occupants of care homes are the oldest and frailest demographic. They may not develop as as strong an immune response even after being vaccinated. Having been kept under lockdown most tightly , they may now be belatedly coming into contact with the more infectious UK variant, as this spreads through the population from the most outgoing ( young and working age) to the most shielding. Having received one dose, staff may have relaxed their guard too soon, and inadvertently introduced the virus. The weather may have turned colder and triggered more deaths.

We will probably never know for sure.

[Little John]

We will probably never know for sure.

When this is all over, there are those like me in the population that will ensure that those like you in the population will not get away with that excuse.

We will not forget. We will not forgive.