USA presidential elections 2016

Lord Beria3 · Post by **Lord Beria3** » 04 Mar 2016, 22:03

This is the main reason he is doing so well across the board and why he is likely to end up in the presidency. Greer has outlined it very well in his posts, which I have placed on this thread for all to read.

FDR came from the 1% yet he is a progressive hero to the Left. There is no reason why Trump can't defend the interests of working Americans, despite his wealth.

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 04 Mar 2016, 23:31

careful_eugene wrote: With regard to closing the border between the US and Mexico, do you think that Trumps wall would would be useful or will Mexican civil engineers specialising in building tunnels suddenly find they have a lot of work on their hands?

That and the factory building ladders as soon as they find out how long to build them.
To really close the border I think you would need to deploy two divisions of trained riflemen with a full complement of technology, cameras drones etc. and with orders to shoot to kill anyone that doesn't turn back after a warning shot. That's 20,000 solders that at least can use their time there as desert warfare training which they may well need soon. Hopefully they could concentrate on shooting the Coyotes that are ripping off the migrants while consistently failing to lead pregnant women enough to hit them. They would not have to leave many coyote bodies out there on the border as buzzard bait before the word got out and the traffic stopped.

RenewableCandy · Post by **RenewableCandy** » 05 Mar 2016, 14:11

Or else help Mexico out of the hole it's in so that most of its people wouldn't mind staying there and building a life in their own country.

Apparently the number of Google searches for how to get to Canada shot up after Super Tuesday.

Were I Canadian I would seriously start building a wall...

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 05 Mar 2016, 15:39

RenewableCandy wrote:Or else help Mexico out of the hole it's in so that most of its people wouldn't mind staying there and building a life in their own country.

Apparently the number of Google searches for how to get to Canada shot up after Super Tuesday.

Were I Canadian I would seriously start building a wall...

Easier said then done. Mexico has such corruption problems most aid programs are doomed to failure. They have about sixty million more people then the country can support comfortably and still have a 1.25% growth rate. Quite a few of the eight million Mexicans working in the USA send money home on a regular basis and that money probably does as much good as anything our governments can devise.
The Canadians aren't too worried. A couple of their winters will drive most of us back home even before Trump is out of office.

Lord Beria3 · Post by **Lord Beria3** » 05 Mar 2016, 21:47

http://observer.com/2016/03/ny-times-re ... dsmithing/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... hinks.html

Two good articles on the on-going presidential election and Clintons potentially career ending email scandal.

Post by **kenneal - lagger** » 06 Mar 2016, 03:51

The Channel 4 program, The Last Leg, set up a website last night, www.brickingitforcanada.com, where you can donate a spoof brick for a wall between Canada and the US to keep Trump out. It crashed within the first few minutes as UK viewers sent a message to Trump. It was soon up and running again.

An associated twitter feed was top of the trending list (whatever that means!!).

Lord Beria3 · Post by **Lord Beria3** » 06 Mar 2016, 08:46

Americans couldn't care less what Brits think about Trump.

Frankly, I am sick of this left-wing politically correct shell of a country and Americans will be wise to protect their own culture.

We could do with a Trump in Britain to sort out our own festering problems that our establishment prefers not to talk about.

jonny2mad · Post by **jonny2mad** » 06 Mar 2016, 09:15

The uk and europe is busy destroying itself, it would be nice if france or germany blow up this summer so that trump can really point out that he's right before the election .

Lord Beria3 · Post by **Lord Beria3** » 06 Mar 2016, 10:17

I think there is a very real risk of civil unrest in Germany triggered by a massive spike in sex attacks on girls by groups of migrants. Already, the German police are warning of this risk.

Lots of attractive girls in short skirts enjoying the summer heat will be seen by some, not all, but certainly some young migrants from deeply conservative societies, as opportunities for sexual gratification. It could easily trigger protests and riots by enraged Germans which could easily spiral into a UK style civil unrest as mobs attack migrant shelters.

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 06 Mar 2016, 12:24

Interesting results Yesterday March 5th. Sanders won two states While Clinton took one but by delegate count Clinton's bigger win in Louisiana gave her 65 delegates for the night vs. Bernie's 47 .
On the GOP side Ted Cruz had a good night splitting four states with Trump two each with the delegate count going 64 Cruz to 49 Trump.
Maine and Puerto Rico Have Democratic caucuses today march 6th. Kentucky has the Dems. on May 17th.and Nebraska has the GOP on May 10th,

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 08 Mar 2016, 08:26

Explaining it

http://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11127424/tr ... itarianism

The rise of American authoritarianism
A niche group of political scientists may have uncovered what's driving Donald Trump's ascent. What they found has implications that go well beyond 2016

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 08 Mar 2016, 12:06

biffvernon wrote:Explaining it

http://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11127424/tr ... itarianism

The rise of American authoritarianism
A niche group of political scientists may have uncovered what's driving Donald Trump's ascent. What they found has implications that go well beyond 2016

He may have a point there. They could name the new party that splits off from the Republicans the" Sheeple party"

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 08 Mar 2016, 12:59

Here's an honest opinion:

Hitler was just some hilarious and refreshing dude with a weird comb over who would say anything at all.

He’s [Trump's] an insane bigot. He is dangerous.

He already said he would expand libel laws to sue anyone who “writes a negative hit piece” about him. He says “I would open up the libel laws so we can sue them and win lots of money. Not like now. These guys are totally protected.” He said that. He has promised to decimate the first amendment. (If you think he’s going to keep the second amendment intact you’re delusional.) And he said that Paul Ryan, speaker of the house will “pay” for criticizing him.

PS_RalphW · Post by **PS_RalphW** » 09 Mar 2016, 12:36

The more you look into the candidate selection process the more arcane it seems. It is a huge, massively expensive process and seems designed to
1. Exclude any candidate without massive financial backing
2. Drag out for many months to maximise the impact of negative media coverage from political media.
3. Gives a massive built in advantage to the 'establishment' candidate

I have no idea which candidates have more genuine popular support. After
the race is over I still will have no idea. It is politics as entertainment, an illusion to give people a chance to pretend they have some democratic rights.

emordnilap · Post by **emordnilap** » 09 Mar 2016, 12:45

PS_RalphW wrote:The more you look into the candidate selection process the more arcane it seems. It is a huge, massively expensive process and seems designed to
1. Exclude any candidate without massive financial backing
2. Drag out for many months to maximise the impact of negative media coverage from political media.
3. Gives a massive built in advantage to the 'establishment' candidate

I have no idea which candidates have more genuine popular support. After
the race is over I still will have no idea. It is politics as entertainment, an illusion to give people a chance to pretend they have some democratic rights.

Frankly I find the rallies they have distinctly embarrassing and hugely cringeworthy. Not that I should be bothered by them, I know (I vaguely recall Pete McCarthy's line in McCarthy's Bar, "With the right education you can feel guilty about almost anything").