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[Little John]

if you are merely wishing to imply that I believe that the only way the current corrupt global corporatist system will be overturned will be by direct action by the people, even violent direct action if necessary, then I am more than happy to completely and unapologetically re-state that here.

So what are you objecting to? You advocate violence.

I advocate fundamental change and defence against those who oppress all of us and that may, in the end, involve violence against those who would oppress us or against their machinery of oppression, yes. I have already stated that. However, the context (or rather, complete lack of context) of my posts in which any argument I may present along those lines is completely absent from your facile accusation. It is akin to my baldly suggesting that you advocate violence because you would defend your family or community, with violence if necessary.

Additionally, you have yet to post a single link to your other accusation regarding my so-called "passionate advocation of forced sterilisation". I have provided the links to the threads in question. Post the evidence or retract the accusation.

[UndercoverElephant]

the core of the board (UE and SteveCook in particular) openly advocate violence as a solution, or predict the end of liberal democracy with apparent glee. Well people are too stupid to do what necessary, aren't they? Hard not to see a link there.

I advocate violence only in the event that democratic means of ending the bankster conspiracy have failed. I believe it is possible for the politicians to turn on the banksters, conclusively. All it takes is a big enough collapse. I also believe your own views are influenced by the fact that your daughter is a bankster.

[AndySir]

You are both inexperienced anglers, I will take neither bait.

[UndercoverElephant]

I might also add that it ought to be pretty obvious from my posts on this board that I believe that accurate information - "the truth" - is far more a dangerous weapon than anything physical.

[Little John]

You are both inexperienced anglers, I will take neither bait.

Bullshit.

So, you are indeed unwilling to provide your "evidence" of my posts "passionately advocating forced sterilisation" from the thread links I have provided. We both know why of course, and now so does anyone else who chooses to read either this thread or the link to the other threads I have provided. The reason is because the accusation is false and you know it is false. Presumably, you operate on the basis that if you throw enough mud, then some of it will stick eh?

Retract the false accusation.

[Little John]

I might also add that it ought to be pretty obvious from my posts on this board that I believe that accurate information - "the truth" - is a far more dangerous weapon than anything physical.

And by the looks of it, the USA and UK authorities agree with you, if their increasingly desperate determination to get Julian Assange into the hands of the CIA are anything to go by.

[biffvernon]

Just spent the evening with a guy recently back from Hungary and Romania.

We should be counting our blessings, not arguing with each other.

[emordnilap]

My results from the political spectrum test put me right on top of Ghandi.

As kenneal points out with Stalin and Hitler, two opposing positions on the political scale can land you in the middle.

[UndercoverElephant]

I might also add that it ought to be pretty obvious from my posts on this board that I believe that accurate information - "the truth" - is a far more dangerous weapon than anything physical.

And by the looks of it, the USA and UK authorities agree with you, if their increasingly desperate determination to get Julian Assange into the hands of the CIA are anything to go by.

I reckon what they're really scared of is the potential damage he could do in the future. What else has he got up his sleeve? Or might find up his sleeve at some future point? Yeah...they think he's dangerous alright.

[emordnilap]

We need a million Assanges.

[Catweazle]

My results from the political spectrum test put me right on top of Ghandi.

As kenneal points out with Stalin and Hitler, two opposing positions on the political scale can land you in the middle.

Ghandi is nowhere near between those two. They are firmly in the "Authoritarian" half, whereas I am into the "Libertarian". But of course you knew that, so I'll just take it as a cheap insult.

[JavaScriptDonkey]

We need a million Assanges.

We need a million Mannings.

The only way to stop a million Mannings is to make sure there isn't a second one.

That's where Assange comes in. A very public reminder of why you should keep your head down and not get any silly ideas about freedom of information in your head.

[emordnilap]

Ghandi is nowhere near between those two. They are firmly in the "Authoritarian" half, whereas I am into the "Libertarian". But of course you knew that, so I'll just take it as a cheap insult.

Oooh, scratch your eyes out. Stalin and Hitler are in different quadrants. But in reality, they're both almost as far to a kind of 'right' as each other, especially if you turn the chart 90 degrees clockwise.

Likewise, if you want to apply this (Kenneal's) same one-dimensional assertion, Gandhi is significantly more right-leaning than Stalin. To quote from the political compass website:

If you could get Hitler and Stalin to sit down together and avoid economics, the two diehard authoritarians would find plenty of common ground.

It could be worded:

If you could get Stalin and Gandhi to sit down together and avoid talking of liberty, they must find plenty of common ground.

And if you come somewhere between those two, who's insulting who?

[Catweazle]

Stalin and Hitler are in different quadrants. But in reality, they're both almost as far to a kind of 'right' as each other, especially if you turn the chart 90 degrees clockwise.

You can't use "right" and then turn the compass 90 degrees.

If you could get Stalin and Gandhi to sit down together and avoid talking of liberty, they must find plenty of common ground.

But liberty is what defines them. A collective formed freely for mutual good is a world apart from forced labour for the state.