I fear the red beast... yup communism

[kenneal - lagger]

There will still be loads of food produced post PO but it will move to different places. Instead of coming to Europe it will go East to where the cash is. The US will struggle to be more than self sufficient and, even there, millions will starve because of their reliance on fossil fuel fed agriculture, pumped water for irrigation and long distance transport of food.

There will be a huge loss of life in Africa as food aid is withdrawn. It will be interesting to see how the North African and Middle Eastern nations copes with high food transport costs and high importation costs due to high cost oil and depleting supplies as they have built up very large populations on the back of cheap plentiful oil and consequently cheap food. Non oil countries like Egypt, Syria and Jordan will have to rely on charity from their fellow Moslem nations. I wonder if it will be their for them!

Europe will certainly not be able to feed them so the current flood into Greece and southern Europe might not find even the welcome that they currently get. There will be definite hostility from hungry locals even if the governments don't do anything. I don't think we will have anywhere near the problem we now have because I don't think that they will get across Europe as far as Calais.

Greece could well go communist in the next few years as a reaction to the austerity measures and I don't think that they will tolerate millions of hungry refugees. Some of the eastern European nations could well go back to communism as they see the failure of capitalism. Life will seem to be not that bad in the dim and distant past. You only have to read here how good life was with nationalised industries to realise what short memories people have. We forget the bad things in life and favour the good.

[Lord Beria3]

One of my favourite socialists was Orwell and he pretty much saw what happens in most communist revolutions,

Yeah, well Eton trained socialists tend to be a little bit different to ones that went to the local Secondary Modern/Comprehensive school.

Actually its the working class Socialists who have usually been the more sensible lot, the champaign Oxbridge ones like the Cambridge Five traitors are usually the tossers.

Orwell was a exception to that rule but then he never really fitted in any 'group'. A true individualist.

God bless you.