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[vtsnowedin]

Some good news.

Emory University wrote:
Preliminary Data Suggests Low-Dose Radiation May Be Successful Treatment For Severe Covid-19

Human medical trials have begun on severely ill COVID-19 patients using low-doses of radiation. The first results on a very small group were published this week in a non-peer-reviewed journal that exists to get critical results out quickly to the scientific and medical community.

The results were quite extraordinary.

Researchers at Emory University Hospital, led by Dr. Mohammad Khan, Associate Professor of Radiation Oncology, treated five COVID-19 patients with severe pneumonia who were requiring supplemental oxygen and whose health was visibly deteriorating. Their median age was 90 with a range from 64 to 94, four were female, four were African-American, and one was Caucasian.

These patients were given a single low-dose of radiation (1.5 Gy) to both lungs, delivered by a front and back beam configuration. Patients were in an out of the Radiotherapy Department in 10 to 15 minutes.

Within 24 hours, four of the patients showed rapid improvement in oxygenation and mental status (more awake, alert and talkative) and were being discharged from the hospital 12 days later. Blood tests and repeated imaging of the lungs confirmed that the radiation was safe and effective, and did not cause adverse effects - no acute skin, pulmonary, gastrointestinal or genitourinary toxicities.

The gray (Gy) is a dose unit of ionizing radiation defined as the absorption of one joule of radiation energy per kilogram of matter. The Gy replaces the older unit of the rad, and 1 Gy = 100 Rad.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca ... 50a55cdc69

[stumuz1]

And yet my home is full of things that did not exist in their current form in 1975. cell phones computers cd players,LED light, washing machine that senses load size, flat screen TV, air conditioner, and a pharmacy worth of health saving drugs, all brought home in 4x4 vehicles that last 200,000 miles. All bought and paid for with my diminished wealth.
Microsoft's shares are only worth $188/share because we impoverished masses keep buying those products that did not exist in 1975.

Correct.

But. And this is the 'but' you are missing.

You could have, or have the opportunity to have, so much more, if the currency had not been debased.

The bits you do not have, or cannot afford anymore, have been stolen from you by debasement.

[Little John]

And yet my home is full of things that did not exist in their current form in 1975. cell phones computers cd players,LED light, washing machine that senses load size, flat screen TV, air conditioner, and a pharmacy worth of health saving drugs, all brought home in 4x4 vehicles that last 200,000 miles. All bought and paid for with my diminished wealth.
Microsoft's shares are only worth $188/share because we impoverished masses keep buying those products that did not exist in 1975.

Correct.

But. And this is the 'but' you are missing.

You could have, or have the opportunity to have, so much more, if the currency had not been debased.

The bits you do not have, or cannot afford anymore, have been stolen from you by debasement.

It's true, the compensation for many people's loss of wealth sat the bottom end of the socioeconomic strata is a few more pretty bows and ribbons. Meanwhile the stuff that matters - you know - things like the house they live in and good quality steak instead of cheap, processed sugary slop.......

[vtsnowedin]

A few pretty bows and ribbons? Well with three daughters we have bought more then a few of those along with acquiring two PHDs and a BA with teaching license. Not to forget my precious metal investment in John Deere green steel and all them dammed guns.

[vtsnowedin]

currency had not been debased.

The bits you do not have, or cannot afford anymore, have been stolen from you by debasement.

But the rich did not debase the currency. Congress did that with deficit spending.
Also never having had any great amount of money in the bank I never had any cash wealth to debase to begin with and often inflation decreased my cost of paying back debt I had incurred building my house and purchasing vehicles. And at that same time the value of my land increased even after adjusting for inflation.

[kenneal - lagger]

VT, not everyone's wage has doubled. Many people are doing the same job, probably very well, that they did all those years ago but their wage hasn't kept up with inflation let alone beaten it. Why should they be penalised to give a man who has more money than he know what to do with a lot more (for doing the same job that he did all those years ago)?

[kenneal - lagger]

currency had not been debased.

The bits you do not have, or cannot afford anymore, have been stolen from you by debasement.

But the rich did not debase the currency. Congress did that with deficit spending.
Also never having had any great amount of money in the bank I never had any cash wealth to debase to begin with and often inflation decreased my cost of paying back debt I had incurred building my house and purchasing vehicles. And at that same time the value of my land increased even after adjusting for inflation.

But who told Congress or the Fed to print all the money? The rich man of course!! He's the one who bribes all those congress men to do their bidding so the Congressman does as he is told and makes the rich man richer.

You and I, VT, are the sensible ones who have increased their nett worth in a way which isn't taxed. I am asset rich and money poor because I worked for myself, either building my own house or in my employment. Not everyone has the ability or opportunity to do that. I might be OK, thank you very much, but I do recognise that there are very many people who aren't: and it not through not working hard that they are in their current position.

[vtsnowedin]

VT, not everyone's wage has doubled. Many people are doing the same job, probably very well, that they did all those years ago but their wage hasn't kept up with inflation let alone beaten it. Why should they be penalised to give a man who has more money than he know what to do with a lot more (for doing the same job that he did all those years ago)?

But their wages are not being kept low just to give money to rich people. If someone is in the same job without promotions for thirty years there is a reason for it and the CEOs salary is not the reason.
The idea that all rich people are evil and stealing from the poor is just wrong headed and to persecute people for being rich would be counter productive.

[stumuz1]

But the rich did not debase the currency.

Oh yes they did!

The Fed is a private, not a state, organisation. It is owned by private banks.

Ben Bernanke is now a board member of the first commercial bank that received QE4!!!!!!!!!!!

You could not make the fraud up. It is beyond most crime thrillers.

often inflation decreased my cost of paying back debt I had incurred building my house and purchasing vehicles. And at that same time the value of my land increased even after adjusting for inflation.

Correct. You were the recipient of a transfer of wealth from savers to debtors.

Is there a theme developing here?

[Little John]

It doesn't matter even if you show VT the arithmetic Ken which shows how wealth has systemically flowed upwards via a variety of processes, including inflation. He will continue to deny the existence of those processes even if they are put in front of his face. And, if he ever does acknowledge their existence, he will say it is "good for everybody" or something similar.

The problem here is not facts. It is values. VT is entitled to his values, of course, as are you and I. Where it all goes tits up in terms of debate, however, is when people refuse to acknowledge that it is their value laden world view that is driving their position and not merely the facts. Because, so long as that is the case, most arguments are dishonest to one degree or anther.

[kenneal - lagger]

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But their wages are not being kept low just to give money to rich people. If someone is in the same job without promotions for thirty years there is a reason for it and the CEOs salary is not the reason.
The idea that all rich people are evil and stealing from the poor is just wrong headed and to persecute people for being rich would be counter productive.

VT, I know that ALL rich people are not evil, etc., but many are just too taken up with the idea of making more and more money to show their long dead, disapproving DAD that they are worthy sons. In short they have a mental disorder which stops them realising that they have "enough" and that they should, perhaps, share it with their workers, the ones who actually make the money for them by their work.

You seem to have the opposite problem to the one that you accuse me of. From your use of the phrase "If someone is in the same job without promotions for thirty years there is a reason for it " it would seem that you blame the poor for their poverty.

If someone is only capable of doing a certain job, why should they be penalised for that? If they do the job well why should they be penalised for that? If they don't want the responsibility of a higher paid job why shouldn't' they have a pay rise to keep up with inflation? The bosses salaries have more than doubled, a lot more, since the 70s and more than kept up with inflation and they are doing the same job. OK they might have a few more people running around doing their bidding but the job hasn't changed.

[kenneal - lagger]

Americans have been sold "The American Dream" in which everyone can become a billionaire in "The Land of the Free". Part of that dream is that the rich have all earned their money by honest, hard work and the poor are poor because they are all lazy, good for nothings who couldn't make a dime if they tried.

Unfortunately VT seems to be a believer.

[vtsnowedin]

Thanks everybody for telling me what I believe and why I believe it.
As to the American dream I know several people that have gone from poor to rich through their own hard work and also others that have lost everything do to addictions or stupidity and even good old laziness. I myself would be much richer if I had invested my beer budget in brewing company stocks instead of the beer itself. So the American dream is alive and well but not everybody takes advantage of it and there are plenty at the top that got there by being crooks.
By comparison what is the UK dream? Is there one?

[Little John]

Thanks everybody for telling me what I believe and why I believe it.
As to the American dream I know several people that have gone from poor to rich through their own hard work and also others that have lost everything do to addictions or stupidity and even good old laziness. I myself would be much richer if I had invested my beer budget in brewing company stocks instead of the beer itself. So the American dream is alive and well but not everybody takes advantage of it and there are plenty at the top that got there by being crooks.
By comparison what is the UK dream? Is there one?

No. But, we don't bullshit ourselves and others about there being one. Or, at least, most of us don't.

[kenneal - lagger]

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d there are plenty at the top that got there by being crooks.

Mr President included.