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5/3/33

If I was Latino in the US I would be afraid.

The murder rate is going to go way up.
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Maybe Trump will offer Bern Sanders, Liz Warren, Jul Assange, Bill Black and Nige Farage posts in his government.
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A massive protest vote, like Brexit.

What a joke this has made of US politics.
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PS_RalphW wrote:5/3/33

If I was Latino in the US I would be afraid.

The murder rate is going to go way up.
I had the same thought.

As for UE saying the outcome was obvious, that seems to be a trumpesque statement. There was nothing obvious about it to many, if not the majority, of people.
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I called it.

And Trump won't be anything as bad as people say.
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Lord Beria3 wrote:I called it.

And Trump won't be anything as bad as people say.
I really do hope you're right.
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UndercoverElephant wrote:
clv101 wrote:
UndercoverElephant on July 9th wrote:Trump is going to win.
Any objective analysis suggests that's less likely than Clinton wining.
I don't agree. I don't bet, but at this point if I was a betting man I would certainly back Trump to win. I have just got a feeling that Hillary Clinton is sufficiently despised by enough of the American public that even the fear of a Donald Trump presidency will not provoke them to vote for her. They will stay at home. Meanwhile, some Sanders supporters will actually vote for Trump instead of switching to Clinton.

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/why-donal ... pd47b.html
This is exactly what happened.
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johnhemming2 wrote:I think Clinton also will win the elected delegates as well as the super delegates. She is then likely to beat Trump. I am not sure Sanders would beat Trump.
Other way around. Sanders can beat Trump, Clinton can't. That's what all the polls say.

Clinton is up the arse of the establishment, like somebody else I might mention. The US public is sick of establishment politicians. If Clinton wins the democratic nomination, we're looking at President Trump.
There you go, Mr "in touch with reality" Hemming. I was right, you were spectacularly wrong. Perhaps something to remember next time you are thinking of telling me that I don't understand politics.
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UndercoverElephant wrote:
UndercoverElephant wrote:
clv101 wrote: Any objective analysis suggests that's less likely than Clinton wining.
I don't agree. I don't bet, but at this point if I was a betting man I would certainly back Trump to win. I have just got a feeling that Hillary Clinton is sufficiently despised by enough of the American public that even the fear of a Donald Trump presidency will not provoke them to vote for her. They will stay at home. Meanwhile, some Sanders supporters will actually vote for Trump instead of switching to Clinton.

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/why-donal ... pd47b.html
This is exactly what happened.
Yes, nicely done, LB3, Steve also. I didn't think Trump was as unlikely as Brexit but I still thought Clinton would take the day. It looks like a carbon copy of the Brexit 'miscalculation'. It shows the establishment made a massive mistake running with Clinton - many others could have beaten Trump.
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A country of so many hundreds of millions of people produces a "choice" of between Trump and Clinton. Oh, and you can have a right-wing regime or a hard-right-wing regime.

"Anyone can be president", they say - an example of how the people of America lie to themselves and are lied to. A strange bunch.
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We already have a plethora of multi-billionaire interests dictating national and international policies.
But let's state it for what actually it is: self-serving, powerful, wealthy elite interests acting in collusion with politicians and demonstrating utter contempt for democracy and ordinary folk.
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