GM foods story in papers

stephendavion · Post by **stephendavion** » 16 May 2013, 13:27

and it won the patent dispute case in SC

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... spute.html

extractorfan · Post by **extractorfan** » 16 May 2013, 13:38

stephendavion wrote:and it won the patent dispute case in SC

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... spute.html

actually, reading that it does sound like Mr Farmer was trying to be a clever dick.

just stick to growing not roundup ready seeds and not using roundup, charge a higher price because they are not weird seeds that'll make you grow tits.

woodburner · Post by **woodburner** » 16 May 2013, 20:17

The sad thing is, for all the claims that GM and Roundup et al would increase crop yeilds, it has made no difference in soya production.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 16 May 2013, 20:44

That's not the point. The idea is to increase the profits of Monsanto. A great success.

woodburner · Post by **woodburner** » 17 May 2013, 00:48

I understand that, but that's not the story pedalled by agri-businesses and their brown-nosing politician friends, including present UK cabinet members. Then there's the story about how small the toxic effect of glyphosate is, ...........or maybe it's not

Monsanto has in fact petitioned and received approvals for increases in residue levels for several crops. Why? Because the weeds are getting increasingly resistant, requiring farmers to increase the amount of Roundup they have to spray just to keep up with the superweeds created by the excessive use of the chemical in the first place...

The Link Between Your Gut and the Toxicity of Glyphosate

The impact of gut bacteria on your health is becoming increasingly more well-understood and widely known. And here, we see how your gut bacteria once again play a crucial role in explaining why and how glyphosate causes health problems in both animals and humans. The authors explain:

“Glyphosate’s claimed mechanism of action in plants is the disruption of the shikimate pathway, which is involved with the synthesis of the essential aromatic amino acids, phenylalanine, tyrosine, and tryptophan. The currently accepted dogma is that glyphosate is not harmful to humans or to any mammals because the shikimate pathway is absent in all animals.

However, this pathway is present in gut bacteria, which play an important and heretofore largely overlooked role in human physiology through an integrated biosemiotic relationship with the human host. In addition to aiding digestion, the gut microbiota synthesize vitamins, detoxify xenobiotics, and participitate in immune system homeostasis and gastrointestinal tract permeability. Furthermore, dietary factors modulate the microbial composition of the gut.”

As noted in the report, incidences of inflammatory bowel diseases and food allergies have substantially increased over the past decade. According to a recent CDC survey, one in 20 children now suffer from food allergies2 — a 50 percent increase from the late 1990’s. Incidence of eczema and other skin allergies have risen by 69 percent and now affect one in eight kids. Samsel and Seneff argue it is reasonable to suspect that glyphosate’s impact on gut bacteria may be contributing to these diseases and conditions.

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 17 May 2013, 08:36

woodburner wrote:I understand that, but that's not the story pedalled by agri-businesses and their brown-nosing politician friends, including present UK cabinet members. Then there's the story about how small the toxic effect of glyphosate is, ...........or maybe it's not

Monsanto has in fact petitioned and received approvals for increases in residue levels for several crops. Why? Because the weeds are getting increasingly resistant, requiring farmers to increase the amount of Roundup they have to spray just to keep up with the superweeds created by the excessive use of the chemical in the first place...

The Link Between Your Gut and the Toxicity of Glyphosate

The impact of gut bacteria on your health is becoming increasingly more well-understood and widely known. And here, we see how your gut bacteria once again play a crucial role in explaining why and how glyphosate causes health problems in both animals and humans. The authors explain:

“Glyphosate’s claimed mechanism of action in plants is the disruption of the shikimate pathway, which is involved with the synthesis of the essential aromatic amino acids, phenylalanine, tyrosine, and tryptophan. The currently accepted dogma is that glyphosate is not harmful to humans or to any mammals because the shikimate pathway is absent in all animals.

However, this pathway is present in gut bacteria, which play an important and heretofore largely overlooked role in human physiology through an integrated biosemiotic relationship with the human host. In addition to aiding digestion, the gut microbiota synthesize vitamins, detoxify xenobiotics, and participitate in immune system homeostasis and gastrointestinal tract permeability. Furthermore, dietary factors modulate the microbial composition of the gut.”

As noted in the report, incidences of inflammatory bowel diseases and food allergies have substantially increased over the past decade. According to a recent CDC survey, one in 20 children now suffer from food allergies2 — a 50 percent increase from the late 1990’s. Incidence of eczema and other skin allergies have risen by 69 percent and now affect one in eight kids. Samsel and Seneff argue it is reasonable to suspect that glyphosate’s impact on gut bacteria may be contributing to these diseases and conditions.

Bloody hell.

Also, from that report;

http://media.mercola.com/imageserver/pu ... hosate.jpg

I've used glyphosate in my bloody job for years. I've never liked using it but customers have demanded it. I'm stopping right now. Or, at least, I'm stopping using till I have verified or discounted the stuff in that report.

woodburner · Post by **woodburner** » 17 May 2013, 08:59

It was banned about 10 years ago in Denmark because it polluted ground water. I was banned from a gardening forum because I councelled against it, and the numpties preferred the manufacturers' stories.

As you can see, it's not just the glyphosate, but the GM crops too.

While the picture is interesting, I guess unfortunately there were other things starting at the time which might have produced the same effect.

biffvernon · Post by **biffvernon** » 17 May 2013, 09:51

And it's not just the glyphosate, but also the 'non-active' adjuvant ingredients in the Roudup formulation, not subject to the same controls as they are 'non-active', that have also been shown to be toxic to humans.

Let's face it Monsanto is Evil.

(I think Margaret Hodge was a bit over-egging it yesterday when she called Google evil they're just playing the system created by politicians. 'Evil' is term best reserved for Monsanto and The Devil.)

JohnB · Post by **JohnB** » 17 May 2013, 16:34

biffvernon wrote:'Evil' is term best reserved for Monsanto and The Devil.

I think being compared to Monsatan is a bit unfair on The Devil!

woodburner · Post by **woodburner** » 17 May 2013, 19:50

Just been trying to explain to someone the problems of Roundup, "There are different views and the site may not be balanced" was the reply and excuse for using it.

woodburner · Post by **woodburner** » 19 May 2013, 00:14

Here we are Steve, another treatise on the wonderful glyphosate.

Everybody should know about this while they enjoy eating their GE crops.

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 19 May 2013, 01:07

woodburner wrote:Here we are Steve, another treatise on the wonderful glyphosate.

Everybody should know about this while they enjoy eating their GE crops.

f***ing hell

JohnB · Post by **JohnB** » 19 May 2013, 12:02

woodburner wrote:Here we are Steve, another treatise on the wonderful glyphosate.

Everybody should know about this while they enjoy eating their GE crops.

I suppose it's a way to reduce population, while boosting the profits of big businesses who produce the drugs and products needed to look after sick people

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hodson2k9 · Post by **hodson2k9** » 19 May 2013, 12:58

woodburner wrote:
As you can see, it's not just the glyphosate, but the GM crops too.

and .... Monosodium glutamate (msg) (hidden under many names such as maltodextrin, disodium guanylate, corn starch etc), aspartame (also hidden under many names), refined sugar, flouride, butylated
Hydroxytoluene (BHT), high fructose corn syrup, yellow number 5 (actually all food colorants as almost all are dervied from coal tar), Propylene glycol alginate (E405), Polysorbate 60, Enriched flour, hydrogenated oils, trans fats, sulfites ...... i could go on.

out of all of them after gmo foods, imo aspartame is by far the most dangerous substance added to food and drink, yet it is in most (around 70% iirc) processed food and drink on the market ..... poor kids

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic ... -food.aspx

side note ... i couldnt find one single cordial pop (for my kids) in asda that did not have aspartame in!

hodson2k9 · Post by **hodson2k9** » 19 May 2013, 13:03

I suppose it's a way to reduce population, while boosting the profits of big businesses who produce the drugs and products needed to look after sick people .

Exactly! as i said on my previous post (in books and magazines ... the great culling) the great culling is well and truly underway and while that slowly happens. Big pharma and big food or as john said big business in general makes masses and masses of profits.

Its win win for them.