New coronavirus in/from China

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 19 Mar 2020, 14:01

Text of emergency virus bill: https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/b ... /20122.pdf

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 19 Mar 2020, 14:07

Looks like quite a few people picked up the virus at the Cheltenham Festival:

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/u ... s-17947651

Darwin Award for any of them that die.

Mean Mr Mustard II · Post by **Mean Mr Mustard II** » 19 Mar 2020, 14:26

UndercoverElephant wrote:Looks like quite a few people picked up the virus at the Cheltenham Festival:

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/u ... s-17947651

Darwin Award for any of them that die.

Nobody thunk of that, eh. Not nobody.

Vortex2 · Post by **Vortex2** » 19 Mar 2020, 16:16

Temporary morgues being set up across UK amid rising Covid-19 deaths

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... -19-deaths

Post by **adam2** » 19 Mar 2020, 16:20

Mean Mr Mustard II wrote:Adam2, other mods,

Given that we now know this is a global event of enormous magnitude, could I suggest the Index page be expanded to include a COVID-19 category?

This ever expanding and somewhat disparate (desparate!) thread could be moved there. And then individual topics set up, by participants to suit their particular preferences, much like the rest of the PS site arrangement?

Eg -

Latest news UK
Latest news Global
Preparations and practical responses
Academic papers, graphs and data
Solidarity and psych support
Managing stocks, sourcing and growing food
Economic impacts
Gallows Humour (for those who like that sort of thing)

I don't think that we need any more sub-fora at present.
General preparations for this and other disasters should be posted in the "preparations" forum.

Growing of food in the "permaculture" forum.

Government actions and the economic impacts in the "government and society" forum and so on.

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 19 Mar 2020, 16:57

John Ashton slams government for f***ing up the response to the virus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LdQZkqS6Bo

Vortex2 · Post by **Vortex2** » 19 Mar 2020, 16:58

The daily case update is very late - are they still being issued?

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 19 Mar 2020, 17:07

I ventured out into the free world for the first time in eleven days. I ran out of propane for the kitchen range and water heater which surprised me as I though my beer supply would be the first to be exhausted. While I was out I gassed up the wife's car, scored a thirty pack of beer then went into the super market and replaced as much of what we have gone through in the last two weeks as was available. Paper products isle was one third empty and flour was down to one pound bags of specialty flours. Meat cooler very short of beef selection but plenty of chicken. Some customers wearing masks maybe five percent of them. Store staff working their butts off trying to keep up.
Sub shop take out only. Local hospital no visitors policy announced today.
We here are just at the beginning of this and it is becoming real for most people.

ReserveGrowthRulz · Post by **ReserveGrowthRulz** » 19 Mar 2020, 17:07

Vortex2 wrote:The daily case update is very late - are they still being issued?

The person responsible for the updates caught it and died?

Mean Mr Mustard II · Post by **Mean Mr Mustard II** » 19 Mar 2020, 17:32

Are there cases suspected or reported in CO, RGR?

vtsnowedin · Post by **vtsnowedin** » 19 Mar 2020, 17:55

Mean Mr Mustard II wrote:Are there cases suspected or reported in CO, RGR?

The sick map shows two deaths in Colorado so far.

Vortex2 · Post by **Vortex2** » 19 Mar 2020, 17:56

HMG 3229 cases as at 19th March

Little John · Post by **Little John** » 19 Mar 2020, 18:17

So, based on today's case number and a predicted daily case rate rise based on a rolling average of the last 10 days, the 70% infected point on my spreadsheet still looks to be mid/end of April. In other words, no signs of any flattening at all yet. But, that is about right, since any effects are going to be time lagged.

If there is no slowdown by 10 days from now, then we might reasonably say it is not working. Either way, the NHS's capacity to cope is going to be breached. It's just a question of by how much.

UndercoverElephant · Post by **UndercoverElephant** » 19 Mar 2020, 18:20

Anyone watch the drivel being uttered by Johnson this evening?

Total lack of leadership, no coherent strategy, trying to simultaneously tell people not to spread the disease while refusing to close the pubs, clubs and restaurants. Makes no sense whatsoever.

There's two viable strategies. One is to let the disease run and get it over with, and the other is to clamp down hard on all unnecessary social contact and try to suppress the epidemic. Faced with this choice, Johnson has chosen neither. This will result in the worst possible outcome, which is to extend the epidemic in time while doing almost nothing to reduce the fatalities. He's increasing the economic damage with no overall gain.

What a useless waste of space. Now I wish we had Theresa May back.

Post by **clv101** » 19 Mar 2020, 18:26

Turn the tide!!

Did you notice how reluctant the scientists were to engage with explaining what Johnson actually meant by 'turn the tide'.