New coronavirus in/from China

[Vortex2]

Well, if Brexit doesn't stop them bringing in the 2020 harvest, the national lock downs will.

That's assuming any crops survive the global-undimming-induced drought...

Sound of shuffling feet, clank of keys opening metal cabinet, some odd clicking sounds <bang>

[eatyourveg]

Daughter getting out of London, right now. Not waiting. It's going to be locked down very quickly in her opinion.

If she is right then yup, it's another world here right now.

[clv101]

Is any form of animal feed human edible?

Animal feed comes in huge sacks at a good price.

Is any of this stuff definitely human edible?

20 kg of grain is around £6 at our local feed place. Looks fine? If fit for animal feed can't see why I couldn't mill it and bake with it? ...if I had a mill.

[Vortex2]

Is any form of animal feed human edible?

Animal feed comes in huge sacks at a good price.

Is any of this stuff definitely human edible?

20 kg of grain is around £6 at our local feed place. Looks fine? If fit for animal feed can't see why I couldn't mill it and bake with it? ...if I had a mill.

Some feed has additives such as copper or weird chemicals ...

[eatyourveg]

Is any form of animal feed human edible?

Animal feed comes in huge sacks at a good price.

Is any of this stuff definitely human edible?

20 kg of grain is around £6 at our local feed place. Looks fine? If fit for animal feed can't see why I couldn't mill it and bake with it? ...if I had a mill.

Some feed has additives such as copper or weird chemicals ...

My plan Z was to buy far more cat food than one cat could possibly eat, and I only have one cat .............................

[UndercoverElephant]

Daughter getting out of London, right now. Not waiting. It's going to be locked down very quickly in her opinion.

Yep. Even Newsnight hinting the tube network is going to be shut down in the near future. How near? Certainly by the end of the weekend, maybe tomorrow. This thing is clearly running away from the government - they are consistently behind the curve.

[UndercoverElephant]

My plan Z was to buy far more cat food than one cat could possibly eat, and I only have one cat .............................

Bizarrely, we just took delivery of an extra, unordered, very large sack of dog food. Ordered one, but a second one arrived the next day. I'm hoping we can avoid eating it.

[Vortex2]

One thing is clear - there WILL be a vaccine soon enough.

Current society is strong enough to design, test and produce vaccines.

[Vortex2]

My plan Z was to buy far more cat food than one cat could possibly eat, and I only have one cat .............................

Bizarrely, we just took delivery of an extra, unordered, very large sack of dog food. Ordered one, but a second one arrived the next day. I'm hoping we can avoid eating it.

The dog? Or its food?

[Mean Mr Mustard II]

Daughter getting out of London, right now. Not waiting. It's going to be locked down very quickly in her opinion.

If she is right then yup, it's another world here right now.

Maybe I'm just tired. But all this pifflewaffle Boris bollo quoted here simply didn't register at all.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... r-measures
Then re-read... Your daughter is wise to get out, maybe she read clearly between the Pifflewaffle lines. As long as she then self isolates. The true London figure must be 50k going by the 1/3 share of confirmed, applied to the 150k Vortex estimate.

The hesitation is the London centric elite actually considering protecting the rest of us beyond the M25.

[adam2]

Is any form of animal feed human edible?

Animal feed comes in huge sacks at a good price.

Is any of this stuff definitely human edible?

Yes, most of the grain based cow and sheep feeding stuffs are edible by humans, though not up to the required standards under normal conditions.
These products are usually supplied very coarsely ground and would need further grinding into coarse flour, from which not very good bread can be made.
Most wholesale grain merchants will have available "feed wheat" which is of lower quality than "milling wheat"
I have read, but can not substantiate, that HMG plans for feeding the survivors of a nuclear war include the use of low grade cereals that were intended for animal feed.
Grass based feeds such as hay and silage are not normally considered edible.

BTW in such emergency conditions, the main purpose of fire engines both military and civilian, is not to put out fires, but to supply water to the survivors.

[clv101]

One thing is clear - there WILL be a vaccine soon enough.

Current society is strong enough to design, test and produce vaccines.

Indeed, that is the narrative of our time, technology WILL, MUST, provide the solution... But there are no guarantees. I think more effective treatments are more likely in 2020 than any vaccine.

[adam2]

All pet food sold in the UK is meant to be fit for human consumption unless clearly marked in red "UNFIT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION" I have not seen any mass produced pet food marked thus.

Pet food is unlikely to be palatable to human tastes, and may not form a balanced diet, but is not injurious to health.

When I lived in London, the neighbours then very young child ate a considerable quantity of dried cat food ! The mother of the child was horrified, but no ill effects were observed.
I teased the mother by pointing out that the child's ears were becoming pointed, and his hair becoming striped, but that no tail had YET been observed.

[Catweazle]

We'll cure this just like we cured Flu and the common cold.



Seriously though, now this virus is in circulation isn't it likely to mutate and pop up again regularly ?

[vtsnowedin]

A bag of oats intended as horse feed could just be crimped or pounded in a mortar and pestle then cooked as oatmeal.