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Vortex2 wrote:
Snail wrote:The local Morrison's had very little fresh produce. No potatoes, onions. Hardly any tomatoes etc.
Aldi had quite a lot of stuff except flour, eggs. Limit of 4 of any item,

Milk, cereal, bread, leeks all OK ... but gaps.
Haven't been shopping for food since Saturday. We are well stocked up but will need some fresh stuff (milk etc). Will run the gauntlet at Morrisons this evening. It it's looking like a zombie apocalypse, we'll defer and head over to Waitrose (where the zombies are more polite). Not yet seen any real panic buying near us but I guess its changing fast.
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Trying to do quite a technical pricing exercise this afternoon but finding it difficult to concentrate. Might have to add 'there might be errors' on the front sheet before sending to my client. I'm only half joking.

Anyone else feeling discombobulated?

My wife is definitely looking a bit wobbly :(
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Tried to get our (learning difficulties) daughter to join the online teaching class today - total failure. Triggered total panic as it reminded her of the 3 years she failed to go to the local mainstream school. She desperately needs face to face interaction.

According to social media only about 25% or less of the children turned up at her special school. I expect it to close in the next day or two.

Older daughter's school (also special needs) will be mornings only from tomorrow. Not sure how long that will last.

On a positive note, at her (phoned) hospital appointment my wife was told she had a healthy immune system (white and red blood cell count) in spite of her immune suppressing drugs.
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Bedrock Barney wrote:
Vortex2 wrote:
Snail wrote:The local Morrison's had very little fresh produce. No potatoes, onions. Hardly any tomatoes etc.
Aldi had quite a lot of stuff except flour, eggs. Limit of 4 of any item,

Milk, cereal, bread, leeks all OK ... but gaps.
Haven't been shopping for food since Saturday. We are well stocked up but will need some fresh stuff (milk etc). Will run the gauntlet at Morrisons this evening. It it's looking like a zombie apocalypse, we'll defer and head over to Waitrose (where the zombies are more polite). Not yet seen any real panic buying near us but I guess its changing fast.
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Tesco home delivery, no delivery slots available until after April 7, and not guaranteed to be available then.

Beer shortage now very apparent.
Loo roll said to be unobtainable locally.
Isopropyl alcohol hard to find, even at inflated prices.
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adam2 wrote: Beer shortage now very apparent.
Yep. If you're beer-drinking alcoholic, you need to stockpile. It's similar to the toilet roll - beer takes up more space on the shelf than wine for its alcohol content, therefore it takes fewer people buying extra to clear a shop.
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I think I have an analogy for what we're experiencing right now. It's like 9-11, but with the crucial difference that it is global, and nobody can stop more planes hitting. No end in sight.
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clv101 wrote:
mr brightside wrote:I'm really quite disappointed with how much the media have been able to run amok and start a shitstorm over this, but there's no going back now, it's too late. The problem, as i see it, isn't Covid-19, it's the panic that's been allowed to freeflow as a result of the outbreak's emergence.
No, it's the opposite. The media were slow, didn't kick up enough fuss. Six weeks ago there was good evidence this was going to be 'the big one', but our mainstream media and politicians were asleep at the wheel.

The problem IS COVID-19. The 'panic' still isn't reflecting the significance of what's going on.
Please can you define 'the big one'?

The virus is a flu which like any other flu can kill people with compromised immune systems. This in itself will lead to a brisk trade in funeral direction and load up the NHS.

The panic is a different animal. Panic causes supply chains to be depleted which ultimately cause food shortages because nobody rents more warehouse space than they need; it damages the ecomomy because people hole up and don't spent money on social activities...blah blah, you get what i mean i'm sure.

People will naturally feel scared when faced with threats to their life, but their survival is entirely dependant on their own actions and omissions. Positivity, survival instinct and practical measures to stop you getting infected ought to be what the media are relaying, but instead all they can do is spread fear. Newscasters and reporters are ranting like old testament prophets about how horrible and deadly threatening it all is. Whether or not it is genuinely deadly threatening is beside the point, the songsheet should be full of hope, not fear.
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Perhaps in these times we should turn to the great philosophers?

"Dope will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope."—Freewheelin' Franklin
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UK schools to shut - well there goes the economy then
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* The US-Canada border closed.

* US police will not arrest people for small crimes - including burglary ... nt wonder the panic buying in the US also cleaned out the gun stores.
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I've sussed it!

The whole of Evesham is being subjected to a huge social experiment!

There is no virus really ... they are just feeding the town fake news to see how society would react in such a situation.

Phew, for a moment there I though the whole world was closing down and going to shit.

OK researchers, you can stop now ... you have been found out!
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Ben Shapiro's thoughts ..

https://youtu.be/TrmjvyeNnXI
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mr brightside wrote:
clv101 wrote:
mr brightside wrote:I'm really quite disappointed with how much the media have been able to run amok and start a shitstorm over this, but there's no going back now, it's too late. The problem, as i see it, isn't Covid-19, it's the panic that's been allowed to freeflow as a result of the outbreak's emergence.
No, it's the opposite. The media were slow, didn't kick up enough fuss. Six weeks ago there was good evidence this was going to be 'the big one', but our mainstream media and politicians were asleep at the wheel.

The problem IS COVID-19. The 'panic' still isn't reflecting the significance of what's going on.
Please can you define 'the big one'?
The one-in-a-century novel virus that causes a major and very serious pandemic. It was overdue.
The virus is a flu which like any other flu can kill people with compromised immune systems. This in itself will lead to a brisk trade in funeral direction and load up the NHS.
This virus is very different to flu. It is transmitted in similar ways, but that is where the similarity ends. It doesn't just kill people with compromised immunity. It also causes serious long-term lung damage to some young, healthy people. Yesterday it killed a 17 year old in Korea with no underlying health problems.
The panic is a different animal. Panic causes supply chains to be depleted which ultimately cause food shortages because nobody rents more warehouse space than they need; it damages the ecomomy because people hole up and don't spent money on social activities...blah blah, you get what i mean i'm sure.

People will naturally feel scared when faced with threats to their life, but their survival is entirely dependant on their own actions and omissions. Positivity, survival instinct and practical measures to stop you getting infected ought to be what the media are relaying, but instead all they can do is spread fear. Newscasters and reporters are ranting like old testament prophets about how horrible and deadly threatening it all is. Whether or not it is genuinely deadly threatening is beside the point, the songsheet should be full of hope, not fear.
You don't understand. Maybe you should re-read this thread, from the start. You don't understand how dangerous the virus is, and you don't understand the unavoidable consequences for the world as we know it. This virus is going to bring down the financial system, and it will do so in a way which is going to make it impossible to reboot. The world as we know it has already ended.
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Vortex2 wrote:I've sussed it!

The whole of Evesham is being subjected to a huge social experiment!
There must be a way you can tell if my comments are genuine and I'm a fellow lab rat, or another evil Deep State manipulator. :tinhat: :tinhat: :tinhat:
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