New coronavirus in/from China

[adam2]

If compared to other countries, the actions of the UK government look very inadequate.

Sensible measures that could be taken, but that have not yet been taken in the UK could include.
Closing schools and other educational establishments.
Banning all outdoor gatherings of more than say 1,000 persons.
Banning all indoor gatherings of more than say 100 persons.
Closing pubs, bars, restaurants and similar places.

[stumuz1]

But, is the evidence pointing to the anthropological responses to social isolation being about 7-14 days? After that force will be needed to enforce the control orders.

I think HMG are keeping their 14 day powder dry to just before the middle of the spread. To flatten the bulge.?

[Vortex2]

But, is the evidence pointing to the anthropological responses to social isolation being about 7-14 days? After that force will be needed to enforce the control orders.

I think HMG are keeping their 14 day powder dry to just before the middle of the spread. To flatten the bulge.?

.. but the timing is critical ... do they have precise enough data?

[Mean Mr Mustard II]

Agree with Adam's list, but the school closure is problematic in that it hobbles NHS staff and other key workers. Maybe partial school closures on that basis would be better.

If it gets to the point where people do have to be terrified first, then it's already too late. Just before that point is better. Maybe seeing our near-future in Italy will help. Or at least get doubting spouses fully on board where well prepped.

I'm still concerned about priests and other do-gooders running amok. That one hadn't occurred to me. While they should rightly be denied access to the isolation wards, they will still move around freely among housebound cases and families separated from hospital cases. The whole point is ISOLATION to break the transmission chain, not More tea, Vicar?.

[stumuz1]

But it still comes down to the fact of HOW do you enforce 70m people to stay in and out of contact?

We will do it, but a lot of the great unwashed will not.

[Mean Mr Mustard II]

But, is the evidence pointing to the anthropological responses to social isolation being about 7-14 days? After that force will be needed to enforce the control orders.

I think HMG are keeping their 14 day powder dry to just before the middle of the spread. To flatten the bulge.?

.. but the timing is critical ... do they have precise enough data?

How about a few proactive days early, rather than 'a day late and a dollar short'...

[Vortex2]

Erm....just when you thought it couldn't get any worse...

https://www.medicaldaily.com/coronaviru ... oms-450295

To help stop the virus from spreading, health experts have been calling on the government to speed up the testing process to identify COVID-19 and help patients get treatments earlier. But a much faster approach may soon be needed after doctors discovered in hard-hit Washington that some patients died even without developing symptoms of coronavirus infection.

The surmise is that the virus aggressively attacks those with heart weakness, diabetes etc.

Apparently a cytokine storm - an intense autoimmune runaway - can trigger prompt heart attacks.

This explains the collapse and death of people who are simply walking along.

[stumuz1]

But, is the evidence pointing to the anthropological responses to social isolation being about 7-14 days? After that force will be needed to enforce the control orders.

I think HMG are keeping their 14 day powder dry to just before the middle of the spread. To flatten the bulge.?

.. but the timing is critical ... do they have precise enough data?

Yes, I think so.

They may have been listening to this girl.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p059y0p1

[Vortex2]

Agree with Adam's list, but the school closure is problematic in that it hobbles NHS staff and other key workers. Maybe partial school closures on that basis would be better.

If it gets to the point where people do have to be terrified first, then it's already too late. Just before that point is better. Maybe seeing our near-future in Italy will help. Or at least get doubting spouses fully on board where well prepped.

I'm still concerned about priests and other do-gooders running amok. That one hadn't occurred to me. While they should rightly be denied access to the isolation wards, they will still move around freely among housebound cases and families separated from hospital cases. The whole point is ISOLATION to break the transmission chain, not More tea, Vicar?.

During the Black Death etc the priests died.

[Vortex2]

But, is the evidence pointing to the anthropological responses to social isolation being about 7-14 days? After that force will be needed to enforce the control orders.

I think HMG are keeping their 14 day powder dry to just before the middle of the spread. To flatten the bulge.?

.. but the timing is critical ... do they have precise enough data?

Yes, I think so.

They may have been listening to this girl.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p059y0p1

It requires registration ... can you precis it please?

[stumuz1]

Hannah Fry leads a nationwide experiment to help plan for the next deadly flu pandemic, which could happen at any time. How many will it kill? What can we do about it?

An app device which closed down certain high risk parts of society

[stumuz1]

Absolutely brilliant and prescient programme.

[stumuz1]

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=ht ... egUIARDmAQ

[Mean Mr Mustard II]

But it still comes down to the fact of HOW do you enforce 70m people to stay in and out of contact?

We will do it, but a lot of the great unwashed will not.

Then, yea verily, for it is written that the Concerned and Prepared shall be sheltered from the Pestilence, while the heaving multitudes shall be visited upon rather unexpectedly jolly quickly.

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[stumuz1]

Noted and copied!